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You’re 100% right about people not reading. I actually teach an adult Sunday School class in my spare time because it’s really fascinating to read and get into
by brightball 6y ago
You’re 100% right about people not reading. I actually teach an adult Sunday School class in my spare time because it’s really fascinating to read and get into the history.
My slogan for the class is “You cannot be misled if you’ve read.”
We spend a lot of time talking about man made traditions that aren’t biblically supported as well as the cherry picking without context that often happens.
Christianity can withstand plenty of scrutiny and it does. It’s the man made rules that claim to be based on it that don’t hold up.
You also get to see major themes in the Bible when you read the entire thing. Themes are reiterated over and over. That type of context is very important when you realize how much people may latch onto something mentioned once.
- jacquesm 6y agoChristianity is also man made.
- brightball 6y agoOnly if you believe the entire Bible is false. And that is certainly a choice that anyone has the right to make.
- jacquesm 6y agoAnd I do. What are the chances of multiple male authors creating a book that confirms their worldview and lays down the law for everybody else to follow putting them at a very hard to dispute real life advantage vs it being handed down by an omnipotent being? Let's just say I would be highly surprised if anything related to the spiritual world and related to miracles or the origins of the universe as related in the bible came out to be true in a way that does not agree with hard science.
- brightball 6y agoAs a former atheist / agnostic, I completely understand your perspective.
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- sjwright 6y agoThat is disingenuous framing. One does not need to “believe” that the Bible is false, only lack a belief that the Bible is anything other than another book written by humans. Besides, there are hundreds of religions with their own holy books. Why should I take yours any more seriously than the Bibliotheca or Dianetics?
- brightball 6y agoExcellent question. What do you think?
- TomMarius 6y agoI think it's comparable to Harry Potter. Actually, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Hagrid and Dumbledore set way better example than any person in the bible, while not requiring anyone to believe the world of Hogwarts to be true.
- sjwright 6y agoTo answer, I think there are an utterly astounding number of books in this world and no intellectually satisfying reason to isolate exactly one specific book as having special authorship.
- wcarey 6y agoChristians, in particular, would believe Christianity man made. After all, God became incarnate and fully human!
- jacquesm 6y agoThere is a good reason why scammers always filter out for religious affiliation first before spending a lot of of time on their victims. Gullibility is a desirable property in marks.
- wcarey 6y agoCan you expand on the claim and warrant you're making there?
- jacquesm 6y agoSure: https://marginalie.hypotheses.org/181 https://marginalie.hypotheses.org/181 It's been discussed on HN a couple of times as well (though not that particular link as far as I know).
- wcarey 6y agoSo, it seems like you're claiming that some scammers believe that some religious people are gullible. That's certainly true, if not particularly interesting! Are you aiming at a broader argument or more expansive claim?