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I imagine the effects will take some time to filter through, but yeah, a generation of the Chinese elite being schooled in the west seems likely to have a prett
by hkt 6y ago
I imagine the effects will take some time to filter through, but yeah, a generation of the Chinese elite being schooled in the west seems likely to have a pretty profound impact. I suppose this is part of the west's gambit in being so open to international students generally.
On the other hand, the Chinese community at universities in my city includes many who don't speak English or try to interact with the locals. There are paper mills designed to get people through the English language requirements if they can pay the right price, the worst of which appear to do nothing but basic hellos and thank yous. It seems unlikely that the majority of Chinese students will have westernised to any great extent, going on what happens here.
- Ericson2314 6y agoThe British and German elite also intermingled because the world wars, it's not enough. Basically, if the masses don't know about the either country, and the elites are tempted by power (it's nicer to make the propaganda than receive it, plus their economic prospects are better in China) and knowing they don't have to fight in wars themselves, it's not good enough. Also, as much as I truly believe in the west's values of free speech and democracy, one needs to understand the fundamental pessimism and decline of the US vs the optimism and ascension of China. Oh, and the use US absolutely could not win a non-nuclear war against China, for example.
- chadcmulligan 6y agoThere are other democracies besides the US, and they're all doing fine in general. Our PM recently pointed out in a speech [1], that maybe the US couldn't beat them alone, but Aus, Japan, Phillipines, India, Indonesia, Korea and the US could probably have a good shot at it, all countries China is picking fights with, not that I think its likely, just saber rattling - there's no profit for China in a war, just loss of customers. [1] https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/we-will-never-surrender-scott-morrisons-deliberate-words-of-war-during-defence-boost-speech/news-story/fa78d11c4a09a60dbc910d1611d861e5 https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/we-wi... Edit: personally I think it more likely they'll just raise the bamboo curtain again - they don't seem very interested in any sort of cultural interchange.
- justicezyx 6y agoHow was China picking fight on "Aus, Japan, Phillipines, India, Indonesia" Philippines and Indonesia are the target of picking fight on the islands at South China Sea. I have no idea China is initiating fight with India Australia or Japan.
- DFHippie 6y agoWhen did you stop following the news? The Indian soldiers killed in a border skirmish has been all over.
- chadcmulligan 6y agoThere's been a huge fight with Australia - I was wondering if its known in other countries, Australia said there should be an international investigation into the origin of the coronavirus, a fairly reasonable expectation. The result - has been a disproportionate attack - tariffs applied to Australian exports, Students advised not to study in Australia, Australia has decided to double defence spending, and sell stuff to other countries where possible. Japan is having similar disputes as Philipines and Indonesia.
- chadcmulligan 6y agoyes, many have commented here to that they keep to their own groups in general, and the language barrier is high.
- luckylion 6y agoBut it's the elite that is educated in the West. Much like Saudi Arabia's elite that spends time in Europe as diplomats (aka "party without needing to obey laws"), they are not the ones who suffer under the system, the elite usually is just fine with authoritarian systems, they stand to profit.