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The more inclusive terms are also easier to understand from my perspective as a non-native English speaker. Allowlist and legacy status, for example, are much m

The more inclusive terms are also easier to understand from my perspective as a non-native English speaker. Allowlist and legacy status, for example, are much more literal in their meaning.

dvtrn 6y ago
That’s awesome! If nothing else, improving clarity and understanding among each other and making communication easier as our workforces become more globally and linguistically varied is-if nothing else decent and appropriate, right?
esrauch 6y ago
I agree for allowlist but not for grandfathered; as a native speaker "grandfathered" is just an English word and I don't think it means the same thing as "legacy status" in most cases. To me "legacy status" sounds like "deprecated", as in "the system is still there but we plan to get rid of it". Grandfathered means "we wouldn't add it today, but since it's there it can continue as a first class citizen indefinitely". A house that doesn't follow new building codes isnt torn down, it's grandfathered in. But it's definitely not a "legacy house", it's still just a fully functioning house that doesn't match what new construction would be but that's ok.
- mjevans 6y ago
  Similarly, I feel "grandfathered" implies a similar meaning as 'exempted' (which seeing elsewhere, the meaning, but not the source propagated with the word's use). Compare: The use of fax for the transmission of medics records is grandfathered. The use of fax for the transmission of medics records is exempted. Both are true, but grandfathered, as noted above, implies that it really wouldn't be allowed in today but gets to exist because some people just can't move on and look for a better technology. (In fact, many of the reasons I hate fax are features for it's die-hard users. It's fire and forget, open loop, low quality, and as easy as dialing a phone entry. Also, there's no security attached to the sender or receiver.)

The more inclusive terms are also easier to understand from my perspective as a non-native English speaker. Allowlist and legacy status, for example, are much more literal in their meaning.

dvtrn 6y ago

That’s awesome! If nothing else, improving clarity and understanding among each other and making communication easier as our workforces become more globally and linguistically varied is-if nothing else decent and appropriate, right?

esrauch 6y ago

I agree for allowlist but not for grandfathered; as a native speaker "grandfathered" is just an English word and I don't think it means the same thing as "legacy status" in most cases. To me "legacy status" sounds like "deprecated", as in "the system is still there but we plan to get rid of it". Grandfathered means "we wouldn't add it today, but since it's there it can continue as a first class citizen indefinitely". A house that doesn't follow new building codes isnt torn down, it's grandfathered in. But it's definitely not a "legacy house", it's still just a fully functioning house that doesn't match what new construction would be but that's ok.

mjevans 6y ago
Similarly, I feel "grandfathered" implies a similar meaning as 'exempted' (which seeing elsewhere, the meaning, but not the source propagated with the word's use). Compare: The use of fax for the transmission of medics records is grandfathered. The use of fax for the transmission of medics records is exempted. Both are true, but grandfathered, as noted above, implies that it really wouldn't be allowed in today but gets to exist because some people just can't move on and look for a better technology. (In fact, many of the reasons I hate fax are features for it's die-hard users. It's fire and forget, open loop, low quality, and as easy as dialing a phone entry. Also, there's no security attached to the sender or receiver.)