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Using AI seems pointless. Not to mention that what need would an AI have for a planet. Might as well put a solar sail in our system. Maybe make a few thousand c

Using AI seems pointless. Not to mention that what need would an AI have for a planet. Might as well put a solar sail in our system. Maybe make a few thousand clones... How about sending a whole village for the voyage? Some will die, some will be born, culture will be thought and the next generation would colonise the new planet.

simcop2387 6y ago
A fun book about this idea, Kim Stanley Robinson's Aurora.
- johnnylambada 6y ago
  I just read Aurora about a month ago. Loved it. So much in it. A great not-evil self actualizing AI, an unexpected story arc. Beautiful book.
- soared 6y ago
  Similarly, Red Mars by the same author takes the much easier goal of colonizing mars!
cynusx 6y ago
Why pointless? Assuming real AI are incorporated into our economy this would be a classic case of comparative advantage. They could operate mining facilities on these planets and live to see the profits of a big mineral haul back to earth.
airstrike 6y ago
Send a bunch of frozen embryos piloted by an AI, then fertilize them in 2-3 batches 40-60 years or so prior to arriving so that you have 2-3 generations of people, the first of which are trained by video / VR / interaction with the AI. Have a few cuddly dogs aboard too so that the first generation doesn't grow up completely devoid of affection by only talking to machines
- cynusx 6y ago
  The engineering complexity of this is orders of magnitude higher than curing aging. In this case you have to fully automate healthcare and education. Then you still have to steer these individuals towards some sort of economic goal because presumably you are not just sending kids to a foreign planet for fun.
  - nkingsy 6y ago
    It sounds hard, but might not be orders of magnitude harder than impossible.
    - cynusx 6y ago
      I think we'll get to cure aging eventually, mankind has been investing in extending life very consistently (a quick google says we spend about 10% of global GDP on healthcare). It may take a very long time to get there though, but I don't see any reason why people would stop funding progress towards this goal. Compared to that, what investment is going towards automating childcare, education and healthcare today?
      - ClumsyPilot 6y ago
        That healthcare spend is not medical research, most of it is ruitine medical procedures like treating someone's broken rib. That's like taking all of global spend on IT, motors and robotics and claiming thats our automation research. It has no bering on making us live forever, and I am willing to bet that 'curing' aging for good is impossible unless we figure out brain uploading, which could be impossible and opens a new can of worms - is the new copy actually you? By contrast we are making a massive investment to automate more or less everything, for instance advances in robotics and machine vision clearly help to automate both healthcare and car assembly.

simcop2387 6y ago

A fun book about this idea, Kim Stanley Robinson's Aurora.

johnnylambada 6y ago
I just read Aurora about a month ago. Loved it. So much in it. A great not-evil self actualizing AI, an unexpected story arc. Beautiful book.
soared 6y ago
Similarly, Red Mars by the same author takes the much easier goal of colonizing mars!

cynusx 6y ago

Why pointless? Assuming real AI are incorporated into our economy this would be a classic case of comparative advantage. They could operate mining facilities on these planets and live to see the profits of a big mineral haul back to earth.

airstrike 6y ago

Send a bunch of frozen embryos piloted by an AI, then fertilize them in 2-3 batches 40-60 years or so prior to arriving so that you have 2-3 generations of people, the first of which are trained by video / VR / interaction with the AI. Have a few cuddly dogs aboard too so that the first generation doesn't grow up completely devoid of affection by only talking to machines

cynusx 6y ago
The engineering complexity of this is orders of magnitude higher than curing aging. In this case you have to fully automate healthcare and education. Then you still have to steer these individuals towards some sort of economic goal because presumably you are not just sending kids to a foreign planet for fun.
- nkingsy 6y ago
  It sounds hard, but might not be orders of magnitude harder than impossible.
  - cynusx 6y ago
    I think we'll get to cure aging eventually, mankind has been investing in extending life very consistently (a quick google says we spend about 10% of global GDP on healthcare). It may take a very long time to get there though, but I don't see any reason why people would stop funding progress towards this goal. Compared to that, what investment is going towards automating childcare, education and healthcare today?
    - ClumsyPilot 6y ago
      That healthcare spend is not medical research, most of it is ruitine medical procedures like treating someone's broken rib. That's like taking all of global spend on IT, motors and robotics and claiming thats our automation research. It has no bering on making us live forever, and I am willing to bet that 'curing' aging for good is impossible unless we figure out brain uploading, which could be impossible and opens a new can of worms - is the new copy actually you? By contrast we are making a massive investment to automate more or less everything, for instance advances in robotics and machine vision clearly help to automate both healthcare and car assembly.