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> Isn't that super common in 2020, and has always been very common I think it depends on your location really. In some places, and in the right environment, yo

> Isn't that super common in 2020, and has always been very common I think it depends on your location really. In some places, and in the right environment, you can be a proclaimed communist and have a normal conversation with someone who is a proclaimed nazi. It's usually tough and with some heated arguments, but it is indeed possible. From the outside though, I think the people in the US have lost that ability, which you are now seeing the effect of.

egeozcan 6y ago
I'm not from the US and I'm very confused about how strong the reactions are. I certainly wasn't trying to start a revolt against a random poor guy here. It may be shocking to people but I judge people according to what they do and say. They judge me too. We don't try to "cancel" each other. I'm an immigrant living in Germany, coming from a Muslim family, and I've been to the stands of AfD, and I judged them, yes, because what they are trying to accomplish is offending to me. I didn't call the police, no. Not because they'd laugh me off anyways, I'd not try silencing them even if I had power to do so.
luckylion 6y ago
> It's usually tough and with some heated arguments, but it is indeed possible. Sure, but both the Communist and the Nazi will judge each other's ideology, and very openly tell them apart from "the rest" of possible ideologies. A catholic from one catholic sect will usually have fewer issues with somebody from another catholic sect or even a protestant, than a pagan. I don't think there is a place or point in time where everybody is essentially saying "that's your opinion, okay, whatever" with regards to ideologies and religions that aren't their own. Whether that discrimination will lead to oppression and violence is another issue, but surely everyone has an opinion on whether something is (factually and/or morally) wrong or right, and when they feel safe enough, they will say so. I agree with your perception that it seems to have become harder to tolerate people of different convictions, though I don't think the US is unique in that way, it's just more in the open there, and their much more pronounced idea of freedom of speech and fewer labor laws make it easier to "cancel" someone, which in turn makes increases the frequency of it being tried. It feels like a wealth thing. The poor in any society have larger problems than policing each others thoughts, and the better-off use it to play social power games.

egeozcan 6y ago

I'm not from the US and I'm very confused about how strong the reactions are. I certainly wasn't trying to start a revolt against a random poor guy here. It may be shocking to people but I judge people according to what they do and say. They judge me too. We don't try to "cancel" each other. I'm an immigrant living in Germany, coming from a Muslim family, and I've been to the stands of AfD, and I judged them, yes, because what they are trying to accomplish is offending to me. I didn't call the police, no. Not because they'd laugh me off anyways, I'd not try silencing them even if I had power to do so.

luckylion 6y ago

> It's usually tough and with some heated arguments, but it is indeed possible. Sure, but both the Communist and the Nazi will judge each other's ideology, and very openly tell them apart from "the rest" of possible ideologies. A catholic from one catholic sect will usually have fewer issues with somebody from another catholic sect or even a protestant, than a pagan. I don't think there is a place or point in time where everybody is essentially saying "that's your opinion, okay, whatever" with regards to ideologies and religions that aren't their own. Whether that discrimination will lead to oppression and violence is another issue, but surely everyone has an opinion on whether something is (factually and/or morally) wrong or right, and when they feel safe enough, they will say so. I agree with your perception that it seems to have become harder to tolerate people of different convictions, though I don't think the US is unique in that way, it's just more in the open there, and their much more pronounced idea of freedom of speech and fewer labor laws make it easier to "cancel" someone, which in turn makes increases the frequency of it being tried. It feels like a wealth thing. The poor in any society have larger problems than policing each others thoughts, and the better-off use it to play social power games.