> they're having a second wave that looks like it will very soon eclipse the firs Yes, that's what a spike means. And for the record, that's exactly what the R

> they're having a second wave that looks like it will very soon eclipse the firs Yes, that's what a spike means. And for the record, that's exactly what the Romanian Health minister called it two days ago, i.e. not a second wave, because in his opinion the first wave never stopped, but a spike. > Sweden's case numbers haven't actually stopped growing. I know that, and I'll answer that what I answered to other people online: this isn't a video game where we should chase the lowest number of cases the same way as we're chasing a score, this is real life where we should chase the less number of deaths possible. And in Sweden the number of deaths is definitely on a downward spiral. We're going to have to live with this virus, many of us already do, there are not that many economical resources available to keep the majority of the population locked indoors (to say nothing of the psychic and mental effects this is having on the population).