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> The far-left radical progressive movement is different and has greater power and momentum than anything we've seen in the past two decades. Huh. So let me ge

> The far-left radical progressive movement is different and has greater power and momentum than anything we've seen in the past two decades. Huh. So let me get this straight, the relentless war on drugs started by Nixon 50 years ago that has incarcerated the most people on the planet, is now being eclipsed by cancel culture in terms of overall destruction of human lives? The massive wealth transfer via securitization of loans, junk bonds, sovereign debt, CDOs, and QE2, resulting in the worst economic inequality arguably in history, doesn't make you lose sleep, but an economically insignificant amount of cancel-culture firings is going to REALLY fuck things up?

sinker 6y ago
You seem to have inferred some things I didn't write or intend. Read my comments further down.
dang 6y ago
Can you please not use HN for ideological flamewar? It's destructive of what this site is supposed to be for. It doesn't look like you've been in the habit of posting like this and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23729204 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23729204, so that's good, but it's also dismaying to see such things beginning to appear from a solid account. It's possible to make your substantive points without that, so please do. I realize that stresses, emotions, and important causes are at top of mind right now. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- spopejoy 6y ago
  Noted, and happy to abide to the best of my ability. I'm confused by the phrase "ideological flamewar" though and would like to clarify: flamewar is the issue right? E.g., flamewar over GPL would be equally undesirable. Tone and constructiveness, etc. Asking because the topic at hand is inescapably ideological, based as it is on an opinion piece and not "news", and the comments are equally so. (Enragingly so, which is what gets me into a tizzy).
  - dang 6y ago
    That's basically right. Yes, it's a tricky line to draw because there is inevitably some overlap between politics/ideology and the stories that are on topic here. I've written about this quite a bit: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20political%20overlap&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu.... Some good threads to start with might be https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902396 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902396. Also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869, which shows how far back political discussion goes on HN, as well as the argument about politics on HN. If you take a look at those explanations and still have a question that isn't answered there, I'd like to know what it is.

sinker 6y ago

You seem to have inferred some things I didn't write or intend. Read my comments further down.

dang 6y ago

Can you please not use HN for ideological flamewar? It's destructive of what this site is supposed to be for. It doesn't look like you've been in the habit of posting like this and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23729204 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23729204, so that's good, but it's also dismaying to see such things beginning to appear from a solid account. It's possible to make your substantive points without that, so please do. I realize that stresses, emotions, and important causes are at top of mind right now. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

spopejoy 6y ago
Noted, and happy to abide to the best of my ability. I'm confused by the phrase "ideological flamewar" though and would like to clarify: flamewar is the issue right? E.g., flamewar over GPL would be equally undesirable. Tone and constructiveness, etc. Asking because the topic at hand is inescapably ideological, based as it is on an opinion piece and not "news", and the comments are equally so. (Enragingly so, which is what gets me into a tizzy).
- dang 6y ago
  That's basically right. Yes, it's a tricky line to draw because there is inevitably some overlap between politics/ideology and the stories that are on topic here. I've written about this quite a bit: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20political%20overlap&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu.... Some good threads to start with might be https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902396 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902396. Also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869, which shows how far back political discussion goes on HN, as well as the argument about politics on HN. If you take a look at those explanations and still have a question that isn't answered there, I'd like to know what it is.