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This kind of rant is just as boring as any other that would be considered "PC" just for the sake of it and it works by the same logic of first and foremost not

This kind of rant is just as boring as any other that would be considered "PC" just for the sake of it and it works by the same logic of first and foremost not being charitable to what was intended/tried to be communicated to then deliberately making up wrong interpretation to try to conjure up ridicule, so yeah, tell me how is it not the same shit on an inverted signal? Seems though that he actually has something else to add rather just acting out butthurt or laying down The New Law, plus he also writes with some humility something which I grew up thinking it's a good thing. I'm not uncritical of "PC culture" or whatever you wanna call it, I call it left-moralism and I don't like it because it's also a lot of times entirely based on being uncharitable or purposefully misinterpreting others, which is no good for making sense of stuff, I do however care first about if there's truth on statements I may be reading/listening and second about if it brings me or others emotions in one way or another, and that I call: reading/listening.

Thorentis 6y ago
My rant wasn't about his intentions. He almost certainly had good intentions. I'm sad that his good nature has been corrupted by the current PC trend, and that he is suffering from imposter syndrome where he is attributing his success to his "whiteness".
- brbrodude 6y ago
  When you read that much into a text, how can you be sure you're not projecting your own conceptions and stereotypes on it? It's impossible. Nobody really has access to the cogs running inside ppls minds, you're just claiming you know his ulterior motives. Plus, I'd have to assume that not only you have this special knowledge but that it surpasses the authors own words directly saying otherwise(1), sorry, I can't trust that thought and I do not follow your conclusions. I just don't buy it. I haven't talked about 'intentions' anywhere either, I criticized your reasoning and you restated your beliefs. More on what I meant by "uncharitableness" is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity (1): "This isn't to bemoan or disclaim my success or my hard work. The point is there are plenty of people who have worked just as hard as me, and many harder than me, who aren't having the success I am. It takes my social credentials to take a glidepath to the most interesting and advanced subjects." "I don't feel guilty for my success but I won't be satisfied until I see a Black trans person given the social license to do what I've done"
  - Thorentis 6y ago
    > "I don't feel guilty for my success but I won't be satisfied until I see a Black trans person given the social license to do what I've done" "I can't enjoy eating until there are no hungry children in Africa". Good intentions, not a healthy way to live in my opinion.
    - brbrodude 6y ago
      I see what you mean. I mean, nobody should be expected to be always tuned in on this sort of stuff, much less so to, and this is something I specifically think is very wrong, to forget that whatever one may have learned, he was once ignorant of it that this is absolutely natural and normal and should be treated as such, inclusive to those that think they've gotten the absolute unquestionable knowledge. So, any kind of moralism is just bullshit to me, and this just goes back to the "charity gap" I meant. Ppl going overboard with sermons, that is completely misguided, I don't think that was specifically the case here but I know what you're talking about. To me this comes from insights I had from philosophy & stoicism, for the whole it's a much more complicated matter.

Thorentis 6y ago

My rant wasn't about his intentions. He almost certainly had good intentions. I'm sad that his good nature has been corrupted by the current PC trend, and that he is suffering from imposter syndrome where he is attributing his success to his "whiteness".

brbrodude 6y ago
When you read that much into a text, how can you be sure you're not projecting your own conceptions and stereotypes on it? It's impossible. Nobody really has access to the cogs running inside ppls minds, you're just claiming you know his ulterior motives. Plus, I'd have to assume that not only you have this special knowledge but that it surpasses the authors own words directly saying otherwise(1), sorry, I can't trust that thought and I do not follow your conclusions. I just don't buy it. I haven't talked about 'intentions' anywhere either, I criticized your reasoning and you restated your beliefs. More on what I meant by "uncharitableness" is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity (1): "This isn't to bemoan or disclaim my success or my hard work. The point is there are plenty of people who have worked just as hard as me, and many harder than me, who aren't having the success I am. It takes my social credentials to take a glidepath to the most interesting and advanced subjects." "I don't feel guilty for my success but I won't be satisfied until I see a Black trans person given the social license to do what I've done"
- Thorentis 6y ago
  > "I don't feel guilty for my success but I won't be satisfied until I see a Black trans person given the social license to do what I've done" "I can't enjoy eating until there are no hungry children in Africa". Good intentions, not a healthy way to live in my opinion.
  - brbrodude 6y ago
    I see what you mean. I mean, nobody should be expected to be always tuned in on this sort of stuff, much less so to, and this is something I specifically think is very wrong, to forget that whatever one may have learned, he was once ignorant of it that this is absolutely natural and normal and should be treated as such, inclusive to those that think they've gotten the absolute unquestionable knowledge. So, any kind of moralism is just bullshit to me, and this just goes back to the "charity gap" I meant. Ppl going overboard with sermons, that is completely misguided, I don't think that was specifically the case here but I know what you're talking about. To me this comes from insights I had from philosophy & stoicism, for the whole it's a much more complicated matter.