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Over 120 000 Americans have died from COVID in the last few months, that's more than died during the Korean and Vietman wars put together - this is a pandemic.
by jariel 6y ago
Over 120 000 Americans have died from COVID in the last few months, that's more than died during the Korean and Vietman wars put together - this is a pandemic.
To quell your conspiratorial concerns about 'masks' you need only visit most of the rest of the world and find out, particularly in close-quarters E. Asian countries, they've been doing it for some time.
Nobody is suggesting they are perfect, the messaging has been mixed, and we're not exactly sure of their efficiency, all of those things are allowed when supporting a 'pro mask' policy.
America has been losing the battle against COVID while E. Asian countries have been doing very well, and most of the rest of the world is doing 'OK' - popular US debate is the most ridiculous, least credible place for facts.
The CDC has some integrity, but this is a global phenom and literally everywhere else with integrity is taking this seriously.
People are not bing 'lied to' about masks, they're getting mixed messages because the issue is inherently grey.
- duckMuppet 6y agoNow do cancer.. Now do influenza. Now do suicide.. Here's one for you, take out deaths over 60 and then look at the data. Better yet.. If you statistically don't want to die, don't be over 70 in a nursing home in a state with a governor who's a Democrat. It's better than a coin flip if you're in that unfortunate category.. odds are high you're toast. I'll not blow your mind by discussing serology studies, both here and abroad. And since you enjoy using other countries datas, you should actually look into it.. Multiple countries have already noted that the lockdown are inherently unhelpful. Several countries including Italy, have both serology and fecal matter studies which show the virus is quite prevalent and is far less lethal than was believed, Especially for those younger than 50 with no co-morbidity. They also found that the virus was in fecal matter in early fall 2019, and similar findings have been found in Pennsylvania. We were likely well into the virus in January, long before masks and lockdown became a thing. It's ironic that the elderly and imfirmed are the ones actually at the greatest risk, yet our government solution is to lock down the healthy and young, while totally giving a death sentence to those most vulnerable. The death count by-day and by-week has been making record setting lows for the past few weeks now, the best since early in the year. Again, the data gives no fucks about what you want to believe. And no, according to CDC numbers, this hasn't been been even at epidemic levels since early June. And all those countries you prize so much, all of them are playing sports, with people in the stadiums, even in the UK the PM is under active investigation as to why they stayed locked down for so long when the data doesn't dictate what they were doing was correct.. I'm not trying to smash your beliefs because it's pretty clear you're a true believer and the actual science or data won't persuade you anyway.. But the idea that you would analogize this to something such as the Vietnam war leads me to believe you should've took less classes on basket weaving, gender studies, or most likely psychology, and more in maths.
- fwip 6y agoThe flu and suicide put together kill half the people annually that covid has killed in six months. And that's with extraordinary measures taken to contain it.
- dang 6y agoPlease stop posting flamewar comments to HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 6y agoPlease stop posting flamewar comments to HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html