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It's outrageously easier to fly under the radar if you're white. If you want to look at it in a ridiculously objective way just consider being a black rock on a

It's outrageously easier to fly under the radar if you're white. If you want to look at it in a ridiculously objective way just consider being a black rock on a white sand beach. Even without the concept of racial bias, which is absolutely at play in these situations, you'll be subject to more scrutiny just by not being the norm.

cbzoiav 6y ago
On the flip side there are positive racial biases. i.e. if you're the only non-white but otherwise fit the part / especially if dressed on the smarter end some people are less likely to question you because they don't want to be seen applying a bias. Actively questioning the one black guy is a lot more obvious than actively not questioning him.
- kojeovo 6y ago
  lucky them not being treated like anyone else
- aahhahahaaa 6y ago
  > less likely to question you because they don't want to be seen applying a bias Many people aren't immediately conscious of their biases. This isn't the same situation, but I thought this article about being a black CEO was illuminating. I've seen the similar bias-exposing mistakes happen to women. https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/16/for-black-ceos-in-silicon-valley-humiliation-is-a-part-of-doing-business/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/16/for-black-ceos-in-sil... They're easy mistakes to make (I made an similar mistake by assuming a young woman was a nurse and not a doctor), but the most important bit is to learn and be aware.
Aloha 6y ago
It's outrageous to fly under the radar if you look like you're supposed to be there. Being white makes it easier in most cases, but it was not required.
partiallypro 6y ago
It's easier to fly under the radar when you act to blend in with your environment. If you went to an economics conference in cargo shorts, you are going to stand out. I am pretty sure that a lot of biases are towards how people dress and act rather than skin color, in this given situation. I've snuck into conferences before, generally there are so many people that as long as you are dressed the part and act appropriately you will not even be noticed. Many of the most prestigious economists in the world are people of color, so I have to say what he's saying is largely nonsense. Anyhow, MMT is a very popular thing right now, so it's obvious he would get attention regardless of his age, gender or race.
jlawson 6y ago
He didn't say it was 'easier to fly under the radar'. He made a vastly more hurtful claim - that everyone else was 'barred'. You're simply not responding to the charge that's been made, you've chosen to try to argue a far weaker claim (which is trivially true) instead in the hopes that nobody notices the difference.

cbzoiav 6y ago

On the flip side there are positive racial biases. i.e. if you're the only non-white but otherwise fit the part / especially if dressed on the smarter end some people are less likely to question you because they don't want to be seen applying a bias. Actively questioning the one black guy is a lot more obvious than actively not questioning him.

kojeovo 6y ago
lucky them not being treated like anyone else
aahhahahaaa 6y ago
> less likely to question you because they don't want to be seen applying a bias Many people aren't immediately conscious of their biases. This isn't the same situation, but I thought this article about being a black CEO was illuminating. I've seen the similar bias-exposing mistakes happen to women. https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/16/for-black-ceos-in-silicon-valley-humiliation-is-a-part-of-doing-business/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/16/for-black-ceos-in-sil... They're easy mistakes to make (I made an similar mistake by assuming a young woman was a nurse and not a doctor), but the most important bit is to learn and be aware.

Aloha 6y ago

It's outrageous to fly under the radar if you look like you're supposed to be there. Being white makes it easier in most cases, but it was not required.

partiallypro 6y ago

It's easier to fly under the radar when you act to blend in with your environment. If you went to an economics conference in cargo shorts, you are going to stand out. I am pretty sure that a lot of biases are towards how people dress and act rather than skin color, in this given situation. I've snuck into conferences before, generally there are so many people that as long as you are dressed the part and act appropriately you will not even be noticed. Many of the most prestigious economists in the world are people of color, so I have to say what he's saying is largely nonsense. Anyhow, MMT is a very popular thing right now, so it's obvious he would get attention regardless of his age, gender or race.

jlawson 6y ago

He didn't say it was 'easier to fly under the radar'. He made a vastly more hurtful claim - that everyone else was 'barred'. You're simply not responding to the charge that's been made, you've chosen to try to argue a far weaker claim (which is trivially true) instead in the hopes that nobody notices the difference.