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Somewhat related. How far are we on having wireless earpods/earphones streaming music directly from the satellites? No phones or internet required.

mbrubeck 6y ago
Why not use FM radio? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HMH0ZC https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HMH0ZC
- nabaraz 6y ago
  No on-demand songs though! I wonder if it is possible to broadcast every songs out there and have a software switch frequencies as required.
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  - jfk13 6y ago
    I don't think you realise just how many songs are "out there". And switching to a given song's frequency wouldn't be the same as being able to listen on-demand: you'd rarely happen to catch it such that you start listening at the beginning.
  - aspenmayer 6y ago
    OnRad.io[1][2] lets you search for any song on their sources for internet radio and if it’s available, you can stream it from any of the matches. It’s the only thing I’ve seen which does this in real-time. I wish you could add arbitrary streams to search from. I think Winamp could do this back in the day, but not sure of other app based solutions for this. Kind of the reverse of what you may mean by broadcasting every song, but if the songs are already being broadcast, tune in. [1] http://www.onrad.io http://www.onrad.io [2] https://rainnews.com/onrad-io-launches-with-searchable-shareable-radio-streams/ https://rainnews.com/onrad-io-launches-with-searchable-share...
- randlet 6y ago
  I don't know about where you live, but where I am in Canada the majority of FM radio is as bad or worse than cable television; constant ads, stale "radio friendly" music and DJ's with inane banter and making bad jokes. It's painful to listen to.
  - noarchy 6y ago
    And don't forget the mandated CanCon that radio stations have to play.
  - reaperducer 6y ago
    I don't know about where you live It really depends more on what you're into than where you live since so many radio stations stream. There are plenty of great radio stations out there still, but on the internet people think it's cool to pretend the stations don't exist and burrow themselves deeper into a more and more Balkanized niche echo chamber, never exploring anything outside of their comfort zone. FMs I've listened to this week: WXRT/Chicago, KCSN/Northridge, KING-FM-HD2/Seattle, KTNN-FM/Tohatchi, K279BO/Palm Springs. If you want to hear the same old thing over and over, by all means wallow in Spotify or whatever you loaded onto your iPod a decade ago. I do that sometimes, too. It's comforting. However, there's a world of good and interesting music out there. You just have to make an effort beyond tapping the play button and letting a computer decide what you hear.
    - krallja 6y ago
      The AM/FM headset linked in your grandparent does not support streaming.
    - randlet 6y ago
      Of course there are some great stations to stream; there is infinite musical content online that I use to great advantage. But we're specifically talking about FM/AM broadcast and the chaff heartily outweighs the wheat in most locations.
      - reaperducer 6y ago
cjsawyer 6y ago
The apple watch is a little closer.
- germinalphrase 6y ago
  How effectively can a watch + earbuds replace carrying a phone? Anyone do it regularly?
  - reaperducer 6y ago
    I did it when I used to work in the office, and it was pretty nice. I have the first generation Apple Watch, so the phone still had to be nearby, but I could keep my phone in my pocket, and it freed up a little space on my desk. My wife uses the current Apple Watch with AirPods at work, and only uses her phone at home. She leaves her phone in her purse, and seems happy to not have to carry anything else around.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    If you just need the basics - phone calls, simple messages you can do via voice, directions, streaming and local music/podcasts. It works well.
  - robotresearcher 6y ago
    I have a watch with cell service and AirPods. I leave my phone at home when running and biking. Works fine for music and emergency comms, with negligible weight to bounce around. Also stops me leaving my phone behind in the gym.
    - csunbird 6y ago
      Out of topic for sure, but I tried the same combination and my AirPods keep falling off while running. Do you have any solutions to this?
  - joegahona 6y ago
    I did it last summer for running. I have an Apple Watch series 4. It's pretty restrictive -- you must use Apple Music, and you can only play Apple Music playlists -- i.e., you can't just search for music and play that. It was nice running without a phone, but I have a Flip Belt this year and it doesn't bother me.
perardi 6y ago
Why is it a request or a requirement to not just have streaming Spotify or [insert music streaming service] over a cellular connection? Satellite radio has awful audio quality for music. I am far from an audiophile, but even I can hear that Sirius/XM sounds like those MP3s I used to download over dialup to save time.
- nabaraz 6y ago
  I want to be able to listen to songs without worrying about bandwidth, downloads, subscriptions, charge on source device etc.
mhh__ 6y ago
-20 years in the future. It's entirely feasible but what's the point. By the time you have designed an efficient network for distributing all kinds of audio from 1 (idealized server) to N earpods you've basically just reinvented the internet anyway. There are too many people without any internet connections (or food, let's be honest) to fuck around with a system like that ethically or with any financial responsibility.

mbrubeck 6y ago

Why not use FM radio? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HMH0ZC https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HMH0ZC

nabaraz 6y ago
No on-demand songs though! I wonder if it is possible to broadcast every songs out there and have a software switch frequencies as required.
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
- jfk13 6y ago
  I don't think you realise just how many songs are "out there". And switching to a given song's frequency wouldn't be the same as being able to listen on-demand: you'd rarely happen to catch it such that you start listening at the beginning.
- aspenmayer 6y ago
  OnRad.io[1][2] lets you search for any song on their sources for internet radio and if it’s available, you can stream it from any of the matches. It’s the only thing I’ve seen which does this in real-time. I wish you could add arbitrary streams to search from. I think Winamp could do this back in the day, but not sure of other app based solutions for this. Kind of the reverse of what you may mean by broadcasting every song, but if the songs are already being broadcast, tune in. [1] http://www.onrad.io http://www.onrad.io [2] https://rainnews.com/onrad-io-launches-with-searchable-shareable-radio-streams/ https://rainnews.com/onrad-io-launches-with-searchable-share...
randlet 6y ago
I don't know about where you live, but where I am in Canada the majority of FM radio is as bad or worse than cable television; constant ads, stale "radio friendly" music and DJ's with inane banter and making bad jokes. It's painful to listen to.
- noarchy 6y ago
  And don't forget the mandated CanCon that radio stations have to play.
- reaperducer 6y ago
  I don't know about where you live It really depends more on what you're into than where you live since so many radio stations stream. There are plenty of great radio stations out there still, but on the internet people think it's cool to pretend the stations don't exist and burrow themselves deeper into a more and more Balkanized niche echo chamber, never exploring anything outside of their comfort zone. FMs I've listened to this week: WXRT/Chicago, KCSN/Northridge, KING-FM-HD2/Seattle, KTNN-FM/Tohatchi, K279BO/Palm Springs. If you want to hear the same old thing over and over, by all means wallow in Spotify or whatever you loaded onto your iPod a decade ago. I do that sometimes, too. It's comforting. However, there's a world of good and interesting music out there. You just have to make an effort beyond tapping the play button and letting a computer decide what you hear.
  - krallja 6y ago
    The AM/FM headset linked in your grandparent does not support streaming.
  - randlet 6y ago
    Of course there are some great stations to stream; there is infinite musical content online that I use to great advantage. But we're specifically talking about FM/AM broadcast and the chaff heartily outweighs the wheat in most locations.
    - reaperducer 6y ago

cjsawyer 6y ago

The apple watch is a little closer.

germinalphrase 6y ago
How effectively can a watch + earbuds replace carrying a phone? Anyone do it regularly?
- reaperducer 6y ago
  I did it when I used to work in the office, and it was pretty nice. I have the first generation Apple Watch, so the phone still had to be nearby, but I could keep my phone in my pocket, and it freed up a little space on my desk. My wife uses the current Apple Watch with AirPods at work, and only uses her phone at home. She leaves her phone in her purse, and seems happy to not have to carry anything else around.
- scarface74 6y ago
  If you just need the basics - phone calls, simple messages you can do via voice, directions, streaming and local music/podcasts. It works well.
- robotresearcher 6y ago
  I have a watch with cell service and AirPods. I leave my phone at home when running and biking. Works fine for music and emergency comms, with negligible weight to bounce around. Also stops me leaving my phone behind in the gym.
  - csunbird 6y ago
    Out of topic for sure, but I tried the same combination and my AirPods keep falling off while running. Do you have any solutions to this?
- joegahona 6y ago
  I did it last summer for running. I have an Apple Watch series 4. It's pretty restrictive -- you must use Apple Music, and you can only play Apple Music playlists -- i.e., you can't just search for music and play that. It was nice running without a phone, but I have a Flip Belt this year and it doesn't bother me.

perardi 6y ago

Why is it a request or a requirement to not just have streaming Spotify or [insert music streaming service] over a cellular connection? Satellite radio has awful audio quality for music. I am far from an audiophile, but even I can hear that Sirius/XM sounds like those MP3s I used to download over dialup to save time.

nabaraz 6y ago
I want to be able to listen to songs without worrying about bandwidth, downloads, subscriptions, charge on source device etc.

mhh__ 6y ago

-20 years in the future. It's entirely feasible but what's the point. By the time you have designed an efficient network for distributing all kinds of audio from 1 (idealized server) to N earpods you've basically just reinvented the internet anyway. There are too many people without any internet connections (or food, let's be honest) to fuck around with a system like that ethically or with any financial responsibility.