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So many of these teachers have become unqualified to teach remote classes since they can't adapt to virtual engagement to help students succeed. They don't answ

So many of these teachers have become unqualified to teach remote classes since they can't adapt to virtual engagement to help students succeed. They don't answer emails, don't chat, leaving students lost. You get more from a youtube video in many cases. Remote teaching has made these teachers lazy IMO.

jasonv 6y ago
I agree, based on this: My high-school aged son was taking two in-person community college classes this last semester. When the SIP hit, his Spanish class just "ended". Nothing online, nothing from his teacher, it was just over. His math teacher worked diligently to keep things going, and I could see the adaptations the math teacher attempted to evolve his efforts with the unexpected conditions. If the CC is only online in the fall, we'll find something else for him. I don't think v1.0 of online CC is worth spending my money on, based on the v0.9 beta.
- oarsinsync 6y ago
  I’m not sure it’s fair to characterise a change in circumstances as severe as what we’ve just been through, and the results of remote work, as a v0.9 beta. MVP feels fairer, and even that feels like a stretch for a lot of places.
  - jasonv 6y ago
    Possibly -- but where a CC has a lot of adjunct profs, not staff, I'm not sure they're going to solve a lot of their issues over the summer. Perhaps at a University, where tenured staff.. and those in the tenure-track, are likely to take the changed circumstances as a mandate to adjust and adapt. One consideration we've had is signing him up for classes, and making a determination pretty quickly about how online-instruction ready the instructors he ends up with are. If we can drop enrollment for no, or little, $ outlay, we may give it a shot. But our alternative -- returning to a tutor we used some time ago -- could be a more secure option, unless he's booked full. Which could be the case.
coronadisaster 6y ago
But with remote classes it becomes easier to find out which teachers are lazy... One of my son had a great remote teacher... not so much for my other one.
- geomark 6y ago
  Yep. And I also was able to see first hand some of the issues my kid frequently told me about when they were doing in-person classes at school, like how much classroom time was wasted due to behaviors by the same kids day after day. It makes a strong impression when you see for yourself the same kids every day unprepared and being disruptive. In addition, I also noticed what a drag the weak students were on the rest of the class. I ended up withdrawing my kid from the school.
pyuser583 6y ago
As former teacher: teaching is hard, and teaching remotely is harder. Maintaining classroom order is a big part of the job. How are you going to do that remotely? When I say maintaining order, I’m not even talking about discipline. Think Roberts Rules of Order. Just coordinating discussions in a meeting of 30 people. Teachers are taught to engage students, and get them to engage with each other. Just look how fast a HN comment thread can go off the rails.

jasonv 6y ago

I agree, based on this: My high-school aged son was taking two in-person community college classes this last semester. When the SIP hit, his Spanish class just "ended". Nothing online, nothing from his teacher, it was just over. His math teacher worked diligently to keep things going, and I could see the adaptations the math teacher attempted to evolve his efforts with the unexpected conditions. If the CC is only online in the fall, we'll find something else for him. I don't think v1.0 of online CC is worth spending my money on, based on the v0.9 beta.

oarsinsync 6y ago
I’m not sure it’s fair to characterise a change in circumstances as severe as what we’ve just been through, and the results of remote work, as a v0.9 beta. MVP feels fairer, and even that feels like a stretch for a lot of places.
- jasonv 6y ago
  Possibly -- but where a CC has a lot of adjunct profs, not staff, I'm not sure they're going to solve a lot of their issues over the summer. Perhaps at a University, where tenured staff.. and those in the tenure-track, are likely to take the changed circumstances as a mandate to adjust and adapt. One consideration we've had is signing him up for classes, and making a determination pretty quickly about how online-instruction ready the instructors he ends up with are. If we can drop enrollment for no, or little, $ outlay, we may give it a shot. But our alternative -- returning to a tutor we used some time ago -- could be a more secure option, unless he's booked full. Which could be the case.

coronadisaster 6y ago

But with remote classes it becomes easier to find out which teachers are lazy... One of my son had a great remote teacher... not so much for my other one.

geomark 6y ago
Yep. And I also was able to see first hand some of the issues my kid frequently told me about when they were doing in-person classes at school, like how much classroom time was wasted due to behaviors by the same kids day after day. It makes a strong impression when you see for yourself the same kids every day unprepared and being disruptive. In addition, I also noticed what a drag the weak students were on the rest of the class. I ended up withdrawing my kid from the school.

pyuser583 6y ago

As former teacher: teaching is hard, and teaching remotely is harder. Maintaining classroom order is a big part of the job. How are you going to do that remotely? When I say maintaining order, I’m not even talking about discipline. Think Roberts Rules of Order. Just coordinating discussions in a meeting of 30 people. Teachers are taught to engage students, and get them to engage with each other. Just look how fast a HN comment thread can go off the rails.