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That is so interesting. I hate going to malls because there are so many people there. But that seems to have been part of Gruen’s original intent - to bring peo

That is so interesting. I hate going to malls because there are so many people there. But that seems to have been part of Gruen’s original intent - to bring people in close proximity to each other. No thank you.

ghaff 6y ago
Shops and social places do tend to encourage people to visit. If that's not your thing, it's not going to be ideal.
stevenicr 6y ago
agree with you / have similar feelings these recent days - but would not have 25 years ago in the same places with the same number of people - so I think we are finding it takes more than build a spaces and they will come and befriend and be merry. Makes me remember how things were very different in malls around here back in the 90s.. not sure when it exactly changed.. but many things changed immensely - and mainly with the types of people that you would be surrounded with. There was also a different vibe with affordability of nearly everything back then.. that had mass effects I'm sure.. Now I'm trying to decided just what time frame so many things changed where people were more rude all around (customers and employees) - and in order to get the kind of customer service these days you almost need to go to some super expensive places - and even then its not usually as genuine as it once was. My point being that 'so many people there' I think it relative to the vibe of the people, and not necessarily just place X with Y number of humans density... for example going to a comic-(like)-con these days with 'so many people' there is a totally different vibe than being at average mall (around my part of the country/world) with same number of people in similar spaces. /random thoughts
rdiddly 6y ago
For those who wanted more social contact though, it definitely filled a need that wasn't being met otherwise. Many suburbs are almost completely without any sort of public gathering places other than church & school, i.e. places that don't dictate what to do and how to act. Granted the mall has its limits too, that's why there's the Mickey D's parking lot! Even Chuck D found its charms irresistible: https://imagescdn.juno.co.uk/full/CS537052-01B-BIG.jpg https://imagescdn.juno.co.uk/full/CS537052-01B-BIG.jpg

ghaff 6y ago

Shops and social places do tend to encourage people to visit. If that's not your thing, it's not going to be ideal.

stevenicr 6y ago

agree with you / have similar feelings these recent days - but would not have 25 years ago in the same places with the same number of people - so I think we are finding it takes more than build a spaces and they will come and befriend and be merry. Makes me remember how things were very different in malls around here back in the 90s.. not sure when it exactly changed.. but many things changed immensely - and mainly with the types of people that you would be surrounded with. There was also a different vibe with affordability of nearly everything back then.. that had mass effects I'm sure.. Now I'm trying to decided just what time frame so many things changed where people were more rude all around (customers and employees) - and in order to get the kind of customer service these days you almost need to go to some super expensive places - and even then its not usually as genuine as it once was. My point being that 'so many people there' I think it relative to the vibe of the people, and not necessarily just place X with Y number of humans density... for example going to a comic-(like)-con these days with 'so many people' there is a totally different vibe than being at average mall (around my part of the country/world) with same number of people in similar spaces. /random thoughts

rdiddly 6y ago

For those who wanted more social contact though, it definitely filled a need that wasn't being met otherwise. Many suburbs are almost completely without any sort of public gathering places other than church & school, i.e. places that don't dictate what to do and how to act. Granted the mall has its limits too, that's why there's the Mickey D's parking lot! Even Chuck D found its charms irresistible: https://imagescdn.juno.co.uk/full/CS537052-01B-BIG.jpg https://imagescdn.juno.co.uk/full/CS537052-01B-BIG.jpg