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He's being downvoted for making blatantly false claims. Yours are no better. Romania and Serbia aren's seeing "spikes", they're having a second wave that looks

by brazzy 6y ago

He's being downvoted for making blatantly false claims. Yours are no better. Romania and Serbia aren's seeing "spikes", they're having a second wave that looks like it will very soon eclipse the first. Sweden's case numbers haven't actually stopped growing. Germany, which had one of the highest case numbers for a long time now had a spike with 1300 cases in a single meat factory. Many other countries have stable low case numbers, which means that they're fine at their current level of containment measures, but could easily see a second wave hit quickly if they undo those measures. I don't think there's any European country with case numbers low enough that they could safely rely on contact tracing alone - South Korea tried that, with the result that they went from single-digit daily case numbers back to mid-double digits. The problem is that in crowded indoor conditions, you get "superspreading" events that can completely destroy all the progress made over months of containment.

paganel 6y ago
> they're having a second wave that looks like it will very soon eclipse the firs Yes, that's what a spike means. And for the record, that's exactly what the Romanian Health minister called it two days ago, i.e. not a second wave, because in his opinion the first wave never stopped, but a spike. > Sweden's case numbers haven't actually stopped growing. I know that, and I'll answer that what I answered to other people online: this isn't a video game where we should chase the lowest number of cases the same way as we're chasing a score, this is real life where we should chase the less number of deaths possible. And in Sweden the number of deaths is definitely on a downward spiral. We're going to have to live with this virus, many of us already do, there are not that many economical resources available to keep the majority of the population locked indoors (to say nothing of the psychic and mental effects this is having on the population).

by brazzy 6y ago

paganel 6y ago

> they're having a second wave that looks like it will very soon eclipse the firs Yes, that's what a spike means. And for the record, that's exactly what the Romanian Health minister called it two days ago, i.e. not a second wave, because in his opinion the first wave never stopped, but a spike. > Sweden's case numbers haven't actually stopped growing. I know that, and I'll answer that what I answered to other people online: this isn't a video game where we should chase the lowest number of cases the same way as we're chasing a score, this is real life where we should chase the less number of deaths possible. And in Sweden the number of deaths is definitely on a downward spiral. We're going to have to live with this virus, many of us already do, there are not that many economical resources available to keep the majority of the population locked indoors (to say nothing of the psychic and mental effects this is having on the population).