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A Zettelkasten-style system is just a bunch of files in a single folder, with lots of links between them. What makes these kinds of notes work is the purpose t

A Zettelkasten-style system is just a bunch of files in a single folder, with lots of links between them. What makes these kinds of notes work is the purpose they are written for, and the links. Two people can have the exact same notes, but link and tag them completely differently, because each of them will have different goals and purposes.

jldugger 6y ago
So basically a personal Wiki for generation Z.
- nemetroid 6y ago
  Why is it for generation Z?
  - jldugger 6y ago
    Cuz as a millenial I've been using tomboy / gnote as a personal wiki long before 'zettlekassen' showed up on HN, and I know a few others who run more online wikis.
    - nemetroid 6y ago
      ...but zettelkasten is a concept that's hundreds of years old, so it seems strange to assign it to a young generation. I think it would be more accurate to say that personal wikis are the millenials' zettelkasten.
      - jldugger 6y ago
        I'm doing so because the trend of calling your notes by a old german word seems to be the new innovation here.
- jyounker 6y ago
  If you consider people born in 1927 (the inventor of the system) to be generation Z, then yes.
  - madballster 6y ago
    Hegel (b. 1770) is purported to have used a version of Zettelkasten, as described by Hegel's sister: "He approached his reading as follows: Everything that seemed remarkable to him he wrote on a separate sheet of paper, which he identified at the top by a general label under which the particular content had to be subsumed. In the center of the upper edge he then wrote in large letters—not infrequently using Fraktur letters—the keyword of the article. These pages he ordered alphabetically ... and thus could by means of this simple method use his excerpts at any moment. "
- vvillena 6y ago
  In a tech sense, yes, it's nothing more than a wiki. The difference lies in the usage: wikis tend to organize their content using encyclopedic categories and hierarchies. A Zettelkasten is supposed to be much more goal-oriented, so that the right notes are found and interacted with depending on our work.

jldugger 6y ago

So basically a personal Wiki for generation Z.

nemetroid 6y ago
Why is it for generation Z?
- jldugger 6y ago
  Cuz as a millenial I've been using tomboy / gnote as a personal wiki long before 'zettlekassen' showed up on HN, and I know a few others who run more online wikis.
  - nemetroid 6y ago
    ...but zettelkasten is a concept that's hundreds of years old, so it seems strange to assign it to a young generation. I think it would be more accurate to say that personal wikis are the millenials' zettelkasten.
    - jldugger 6y ago
      I'm doing so because the trend of calling your notes by a old german word seems to be the new innovation here.
jyounker 6y ago
If you consider people born in 1927 (the inventor of the system) to be generation Z, then yes.
- madballster 6y ago
  Hegel (b. 1770) is purported to have used a version of Zettelkasten, as described by Hegel's sister: "He approached his reading as follows: Everything that seemed remarkable to him he wrote on a separate sheet of paper, which he identified at the top by a general label under which the particular content had to be subsumed. In the center of the upper edge he then wrote in large letters—not infrequently using Fraktur letters—the keyword of the article. These pages he ordered alphabetically ... and thus could by means of this simple method use his excerpts at any moment. "
vvillena 6y ago
In a tech sense, yes, it's nothing more than a wiki. The difference lies in the usage: wikis tend to organize their content using encyclopedic categories and hierarchies. A Zettelkasten is supposed to be much more goal-oriented, so that the right notes are found and interacted with depending on our work.