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this is a joke, right? https://www.google.com/search?q=texas+covid+cases https://www.google.com/search?q=texas+covid+cases https://www.google.com/search?q=flo

this is a joke, right? https://www.google.com/search?q=texas+covid+cases https://www.google.com/search?q=texas+covid+cases https://www.google.com/search?q=florida+covid+cases https://www.google.com/search?q=florida+covid+cases

haberdasher 6y ago
Also, deaths lag cases.
SmokeyHamster 6y ago
this is a joke, right? Cases != fatalities. A lot of places are doing a lot more testing. That causes case count to rise. That doesn't mean the disease is spreading beyond control. If it were, the fatality rate would also be increasing, which it's not. Sorry, but you're going to have to find some other reason to justify your partisan hate boner.
- ggggtez 6y ago
  Your data doesn't show testing rate. Maybe it could be true, but your data doesn't come anywhere close to showing it... And in fact, when we actually find the data that would prove it, the data shows the opposite. [1] If you check Florida, you'll see that they actually decreased testing by 22%, and still had an increase in positive cases (over 300%!). Testing less, and getting more sick people is basically the definition of it being out of control. [1] https://www.propublica.org/article/state-coronavirus-data-doesnt-support-trumps-misleading-testing-claims https://www.propublica.org/article/state-coronavirus-data-do... The Governor of Florida is even quoted in this article as disagreeing with you, and admitting that testing doesn't account for the increase. While he might not be an expert, it should make you take another look, as this is politically damaging for him to say his party leader is wrong.
jonhohle 6y ago
Denominators are important. Statistics are important. A raw count without other supporting data (how many tests have been given, what is the population in areas where cases are increasing) has absolutely no meaning. There have been ≈3.5M cases in the US. That sounds awful! That’s out of 35M people tested. At its peak the infection rate for people tested in the US was around 12%. The current infection rate is 9%. The rate is falling, not rising. As more people are tested the numerator increases - it’s a tautology. It’s meaningless without understanding the context. Media outlets Are going to drown out any rational discussion (and search results) with their hyperbole.
- jonhohle 6y ago
  A plea to evaluate metrics in a meaningful way is dismissed on HN? This is exactly the kind of place that should be demanding objective measures.

haberdasher 6y ago

Also, deaths lag cases.

SmokeyHamster 6y ago

this is a joke, right? Cases != fatalities. A lot of places are doing a lot more testing. That causes case count to rise. That doesn't mean the disease is spreading beyond control. If it were, the fatality rate would also be increasing, which it's not. Sorry, but you're going to have to find some other reason to justify your partisan hate boner.

ggggtez 6y ago
Your data doesn't show testing rate. Maybe it could be true, but your data doesn't come anywhere close to showing it... And in fact, when we actually find the data that would prove it, the data shows the opposite. [1] If you check Florida, you'll see that they actually decreased testing by 22%, and still had an increase in positive cases (over 300%!). Testing less, and getting more sick people is basically the definition of it being out of control. [1] https://www.propublica.org/article/state-coronavirus-data-doesnt-support-trumps-misleading-testing-claims https://www.propublica.org/article/state-coronavirus-data-do... The Governor of Florida is even quoted in this article as disagreeing with you, and admitting that testing doesn't account for the increase. While he might not be an expert, it should make you take another look, as this is politically damaging for him to say his party leader is wrong.

jonhohle 6y ago

Denominators are important. Statistics are important. A raw count without other supporting data (how many tests have been given, what is the population in areas where cases are increasing) has absolutely no meaning. There have been ≈3.5M cases in the US. That sounds awful! That’s out of 35M people tested. At its peak the infection rate for people tested in the US was around 12%. The current infection rate is 9%. The rate is falling, not rising. As more people are tested the numerator increases - it’s a tautology. It’s meaningless without understanding the context. Media outlets Are going to drown out any rational discussion (and search results) with their hyperbole.

jonhohle 6y ago
A plea to evaluate metrics in a meaningful way is dismissed on HN? This is exactly the kind of place that should be demanding objective measures.