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How do you explain the spike in cases among 20-29 in MN right after the protests[1]? You can call me stupid all you like, but the data speaks for itself. Even F

by gizmo 6y ago

How do you explain the spike in cases among 20-29 in MN right after the protests[1]? You can call me stupid all you like, but the data speaks for itself. Even Fauci referred to protests as having the "perfect set-up" conditions for hotspot spreading to take place[2]. The next step is to ask yourself why no similar spike in cases happened after protests in NY or Paris, even though they also had this "perfect set-up" for spreading. 1: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebpl1DVU0AAPHMs?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebpl1DVU0AAPHMs?format=jpg&name=... 2: https://www.businessinsider.nl/dr-fauci-protests-perfect-set-up-for-spreading-covid-19-2020-6?international=true&r=US https://www.businessinsider.nl/dr-fauci-protests-perfect-set...

guscost 6y ago
I think that you will be proven correct eventually, but in many circles this argument still prompts a nasty, negative, and thoroughly irrational response. “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” -Unknown
- brazzy 6y ago
  He is proven wrong already. Just look at the fucking case numbers. The irrational position based on deceit is yours.
  - guscost 6y ago
    You have a very disappointing standard for "proof": https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-wants-states-to-count-probable-coronavirus-cases-and-deaths-but-most-arent-doing-it/2020/06/07/4aac9a58-9d0a-11ea-b60c-3be060a4f8e1_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-wants-stat... https://google.com?q=ny+coronavirus+cases https://google.com?q=ny+coronavirus+cases By "the fucking case numbers", I assume you mean only those statistics which are spoon-fed by an industry that makes money scaring people into noticing advertisements.
    - brazzy 6y ago
      > You have a very disappointing standard for "proof": Lol, are you trying to tell me what sources I'm using? I'm not even American. > https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-wants-states-to-count-probable-coronavirus-cases-and-deaths-but-most-arent-doing-it/2020/06/07/4aac9a58-9d0a-11ea-b60c-3be060a4f8e1_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-wants-stat... What's that supposed to tell me? That a liberal agenda is trying to inflate the numbers? Just looking at actual test results isn't any prettier: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h... Look at Russia, Mexico, Ukraine, Sweden. > https://google.com/?q=ny+coronavirus+cases https://google.com/?q=ny+coronavirus+cases https://google.com/?q=florida+coronavirus+cases https://google.com/?q=florida+coronavirus+cases
      - dang 6y ago
        Please stop posting flamewar comments to HN, regardless of how right you are or feel you are, or how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - dang 6y ago
      Please stop posting flamewar comments to HN, regardless of how right you are or feel you are, or how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
brazzy 6y ago
You're missing the forest for the trees. There are countries where the case numbers have been at hundreds or thousands of new cases daily for months, in some they are still or again rising beyond that. Germany, with its very successful lockdown measures that have been eased gradually now had a case last week where basically an entire meat packing plant got infected, over 1000 people, leading to ongoing infections in that area. There is exactly zero indication that it's over, just that lockdown and distancing measures are working, and that a subset of them, combined with diligent testing and contact tracing, may be enough.
fwip 6y ago
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/06/24/latest-on-covid19-in-mn https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/06/24/latest-on-covid19-i...

by gizmo 6y ago

guscost 6y ago

I think that you will be proven correct eventually, but in many circles this argument still prompts a nasty, negative, and thoroughly irrational response. “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” -Unknown

brazzy 6y ago
He is proven wrong already. Just look at the fucking case numbers. The irrational position based on deceit is yours.
- guscost 6y ago
  You have a very disappointing standard for "proof": https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-wants-states-to-count-probable-coronavirus-cases-and-deaths-but-most-arent-doing-it/2020/06/07/4aac9a58-9d0a-11ea-b60c-3be060a4f8e1_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-wants-stat... https://google.com?q=ny+coronavirus+cases https://google.com?q=ny+coronavirus+cases By "the fucking case numbers", I assume you mean only those statistics which are spoon-fed by an industry that makes money scaring people into noticing advertisements.
  - brazzy 6y ago
    > You have a very disappointing standard for "proof": Lol, are you trying to tell me what sources I'm using? I'm not even American. > https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-wants-states-to-count-probable-coronavirus-cases-and-deaths-but-most-arent-doing-it/2020/06/07/4aac9a58-9d0a-11ea-b60c-3be060a4f8e1_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-wants-stat... What's that supposed to tell me? That a liberal agenda is trying to inflate the numbers? Just looking at actual test results isn't any prettier: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h... Look at Russia, Mexico, Ukraine, Sweden. > https://google.com/?q=ny+coronavirus+cases https://google.com/?q=ny+coronavirus+cases https://google.com/?q=florida+coronavirus+cases https://google.com/?q=florida+coronavirus+cases
    - dang 6y ago
      Please stop posting flamewar comments to HN, regardless of how right you are or feel you are, or how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - dang 6y ago
    Please stop posting flamewar comments to HN, regardless of how right you are or feel you are, or how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

brazzy 6y ago

You're missing the forest for the trees. There are countries where the case numbers have been at hundreds or thousands of new cases daily for months, in some they are still or again rising beyond that. Germany, with its very successful lockdown measures that have been eased gradually now had a case last week where basically an entire meat packing plant got infected, over 1000 people, leading to ongoing infections in that area. There is exactly zero indication that it's over, just that lockdown and distancing measures are working, and that a subset of them, combined with diligent testing and contact tracing, may be enough.

fwip 6y ago

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/06/24/latest-on-covid19-in-mn https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/06/24/latest-on-covid19-i...