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If this doesn't apply to the UK as well, it is not enough. I would like to see a flyover ban as well, as PIA flies through the EU to the UK. I'm following the

• aembleton 6y ago
  Following the EASA’s decision, the UK Civil Aviation Authority said it, too, was withdrawing PIA’s permit to operate from three of its airports, as required under law. “PIA flights from Birmingham, London Heathrow and Manchester airports are suspended with immediate effect,” a spokesman for the UK authority told Reuters. Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-airlines-eu/eu-safety-agency-suspends-pakistani-airlines-european-authorisation-for-six-months-idUSKBN2412MT https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-airlines-eu/eu-s...
• newsbinator 6y ago
  > triggering fighter intercepts Also this costs tax money. Why spend the money on intercepts when you can ban the people causing the problems?
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  • VBprogrammer 6y ago
    Only on paper. Let's face it if the pilots weren't flying intercepts they'd need to be flying training missions. Anyway, the sunk cost of buying, maintaining and operating fighter jets is so high that the marginal cost of a mission is a bit of a wash.
    • gruez 6y ago
      >Let's face it if the pilots weren't flying intercepts they'd need to be flying training missions Is this really the case? Are there training missions 24/7? If not, does flying an intercept cause a future training mission to be canceled?
      • ClumsyPilot 6y ago
        I dont think this nitpicking achieves anything, his overall point stands - we have hundreds of military jets and pilots with fuck all to do (fortunately). How many intercepts are there, one every few months? It makes no material difference against the backdrop of training and eqipment used in a regular business as usual.
        • vageli 6y ago
          > I dont think this nitpicking achieves anything, his overall point stands - we have hundreds of military jets and pilots with fuck all to do (fortunately). How many intercepts are there, one every few months? It makes no material difference against the backdrop of training and eqipment used in a regular business as usual. Maybe stores should stop hiring security guards in towns where the police don't have much to do. The cops are just sitting around anyway, right?
          • markus92 6y ago
            Cops don't have to make flight hours, fighter pilots do.
          • ClumsyPilot 6y ago
            This whole line of argument does not make sence - the whole debacle is about safety, not money. Why do you believe the current training and safety regime is economically optimal? It is possible that having more cheaper airplanes and pilots that crash a little more often would be better for economy!
          • mhh__ 6y ago
• panini_tech 6y ago
  Pakistan is a monster created by British..call it chickens coming home to roost
  • noir_lord 6y ago
    The partition was a hideous mistake but it was decades ago and how long can you blame it for unrelated things anyway?. By that logic as an Englishman I can blame the French for all our screwups.
    • ClumsyPilot 6y ago
      Well cosequences don't go away. Russia unified into a single state only because of the Mongoles, so you can blame Communism and cold war on them.
      • trhway 6y ago
        Russia was founded by Vikings. At about the same time Britain was massively raided and invaded by Vikings, and, across the Channel, Normandy (where Wilhelm the Conqueror is coming from) was established by Vikings. Those Vikings may have known each other or even been relatives. So, now we know whom to blame for the major part of the more than millennium of European history afterwards. Though Viking age was clearly result of the global warming of the first millennium (that warming also destroyed the Roman Empire), thus it all just a result of that climate fluctuation back then. Another example of putting blame through 2 millennia - Space Shuttle booster width as result of the Roman chariot width https://dwanethomas.com/roman-chariots-and-the-space-shuttle/ https://dwanethomas.com/roman-chariots-and-the-space-shuttle...
        • addHocker 6y ago
          I blame africas savannah for homo sapiens, and thus m pro poaching. Thos lousy apex predators had it coming, for dozing off when we came along..
        • noir_lord 6y ago
• Bobbcatt 6y ago
  >I don't want to have PIA planes crashing into others or falling on my head. Even with sleeping pilots, you still are order of magnitude more likely to die by a car than by a plane.
  • dividedbyzero 6y ago
    I guess that's technically correct, but it seems a little pointless; with sufficient negligence, accidents are a virtual certainty, and those who come to harm in such an event would find little solace in that knowledge. In that sense, I don't want PIA planes falling on my own or anyone else's head, land, or property, anywhere in the world. There's no reason to allow pilots and airlines to behave like that, and lots of reasons to sanction them very harshly if they do. After all, who's to believe they're current on their maintenance if they can't even make sure pilots respond when hailed?
    • ClumsyPilot 6y ago
      I think the real danger is to passengers of the plane. It is very rare for a plane crash to kill anyone on the ground. Noth of earth surface is not cities, its water/farmland/etc
      • iso1210 6y ago
        More common than you'd think as most crashes are on takeoff or landing, which tend to be in more built up areas.
        • Bobbcatt 6y ago
          Pilots are definitely not sleeping on landing.
        • occamrazor 6y ago
          We are discussing high altitude flyovers here.
• rbrtdrmpc- 6y ago
  Not to sound too harsh, but I’m pretty sure many country would rather blast those planes with rockets than wait them to do any harm, just talking knowing how it works in my country, Italy, and all the counter rocket facility deployed on our borders. I’m just saying that because i have no info what’s the deal with other countries