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Not sure I agree. When I ran my consultancies I priced my contracts as either a fixed weekly rate or a value price. So it didn't matter where the client was l

Not sure I agree. When I ran my consultancies I priced my contracts as either a fixed weekly rate or a value price. So it didn't matter where the client was located or my employee(s). When we billed weekly rates it was a specified rate for a specific project role regardless of who the client was. When it was value based deal I didn't care if the client was in SF or Kansas, I based the price on the value it brought to the client and what I thought was fair but lucrative enough to take the project. I do know there are freelancers that change their rate based on the client but I honestly don't agree with it, typically to me it means you rate is too low or you are pricing improperly. Your rate should be moving up as you gain experience but it shouldn't vary much by client, unless you start value pricing or when you start dealing with enterprises who demand insane support and hand holding.

zerr 6y ago
OK, but now imagine if a Bay Area client tells you to lower your rate by 20% since you're based in Oklahoma and it should be more than enough for you...
- davismwfl 6y ago
  I see your point and respect your position but disagree with the logic. In one example you are an employee, in the other you should be running a business and the two are not equivalent in pay, process or responsibility, so trying to treat them as they are is improper. IMO freelancer is just a label for an employee with no benefits, no protections and full tax liability. Consultants (or dev shops etc) generally build real businesses and are treated considerably different.
  - zerr 6y ago
    Those (including 400K employment) are just different names for what is essentially a business deal between two parties - as long as you provide the value satisfying the second party, and as long as the second party pays the agreed amount - it shouldn't matter whether any of you live in Thailand or rent a duplex on Manhattan.

zerr 6y ago

OK, but now imagine if a Bay Area client tells you to lower your rate by 20% since you're based in Oklahoma and it should be more than enough for you...

davismwfl 6y ago
I see your point and respect your position but disagree with the logic. In one example you are an employee, in the other you should be running a business and the two are not equivalent in pay, process or responsibility, so trying to treat them as they are is improper. IMO freelancer is just a label for an employee with no benefits, no protections and full tax liability. Consultants (or dev shops etc) generally build real businesses and are treated considerably different.
- zerr 6y ago
  Those (including 400K employment) are just different names for what is essentially a business deal between two parties - as long as you provide the value satisfying the second party, and as long as the second party pays the agreed amount - it shouldn't matter whether any of you live in Thailand or rent a duplex on Manhattan.