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A bloke (and a less privileged bloke at that, 75% non white according to himself) was recently fired because someone had shot a photo of him resting his hand ou

A bloke (and a less privileged bloke at that, 75% non white according to himself) was recently fired because someone had shot a photo of him resting his hand out the window of a company truck in what lpoked line an OK hand. It was discussed here a few days ago. Stop firing the innocent or something, from the Atlantic.

Smoosh 6y ago
oh, come on. "resting his hand ... what looked like" ??? Wasn't the story that people in another car taunted him and urged him to make the symbol, and they recorded it when he did? He may have not known what the meaning was (I believe that is what he claimed) but that is an entirely different defense to make than "I wasn't doing it, it just looked a bit like it".
- geronimoe 6y ago
  What are you talking about? You need to defend yourself for hand gestures now? You need to preface your arguments with "I'm not white" now? The point is he didn't make a racist gesture, so why are we even talking about it.
- skinkestek 6y ago
  Point is it seems he did it after they kept following him and trying to get him to do it, it seems the guys in the other car even did it first to try to get him to mimic it. And that is before we talk about the problem with firing someone over this in the first place. Context is important. I have had to tell my kids more than once that when an elderly person use their middle finger to point at something it isn't offensive because they grew up in a time when it didn't matter. That elderly person sure doesn't mean "F* you" as they are pointing their middle finger horizontally towards something while saying "look there". In fact I think we all do something every single day that would be considered offensive by someone at some point.
thatoneuser 6y ago
Yet op before you was just saying "well if you make the sign a 'reasonable person' knows it's to be racist". I cannot wrap my mind around the level of cognitive dissonance there is around racial things. Real people's lives are harmed by this overreaction. Meanwhile on reddit it's cool to he racist if it's against white people.
undersuit 6y ago
One person being fired doesn't prove anything. The person who took the video is even upset that he accidentally hurt the person he was videoing.
- deleted 6y ago
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- barry-cotter 6y ago
  The person who took the video went to significant effort to ruin Emmanuel Cafferty’s life and it is a great shame that he has suffered no consequences from doing so.
  - undersuit 6y ago
    >NBC 7 spoke to the man who originally posted the picture on Twitter. He has since deleted his account and said he may have gotten "spun up" about the interaction and misinterpreted it. He says he never intended for Cafferty to lose his job. https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/sdge-worker-fired-over-alleged-racist-gesture-says-he-was-cracking-knuckles/2347414/ https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/sdge-worker-fired-ove...

Smoosh 6y ago

oh, come on. "resting his hand ... what looked like" ??? Wasn't the story that people in another car taunted him and urged him to make the symbol, and they recorded it when he did? He may have not known what the meaning was (I believe that is what he claimed) but that is an entirely different defense to make than "I wasn't doing it, it just looked a bit like it".

geronimoe 6y ago
What are you talking about? You need to defend yourself for hand gestures now? You need to preface your arguments with "I'm not white" now? The point is he didn't make a racist gesture, so why are we even talking about it.
skinkestek 6y ago
Point is it seems he did it after they kept following him and trying to get him to do it, it seems the guys in the other car even did it first to try to get him to mimic it. And that is before we talk about the problem with firing someone over this in the first place. Context is important. I have had to tell my kids more than once that when an elderly person use their middle finger to point at something it isn't offensive because they grew up in a time when it didn't matter. That elderly person sure doesn't mean "F* you" as they are pointing their middle finger horizontally towards something while saying "look there". In fact I think we all do something every single day that would be considered offensive by someone at some point.

thatoneuser 6y ago

Yet op before you was just saying "well if you make the sign a 'reasonable person' knows it's to be racist". I cannot wrap my mind around the level of cognitive dissonance there is around racial things. Real people's lives are harmed by this overreaction. Meanwhile on reddit it's cool to he racist if it's against white people.

undersuit 6y ago

One person being fired doesn't prove anything. The person who took the video is even upset that he accidentally hurt the person he was videoing.

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barry-cotter 6y ago
The person who took the video went to significant effort to ruin Emmanuel Cafferty’s life and it is a great shame that he has suffered no consequences from doing so.
- undersuit 6y ago
  >NBC 7 spoke to the man who originally posted the picture on Twitter. He has since deleted his account and said he may have gotten "spun up" about the interaction and misinterpreted it. He says he never intended for Cafferty to lose his job. https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/sdge-worker-fired-over-alleged-racist-gesture-says-he-was-cracking-knuckles/2347414/ https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/sdge-worker-fired-ove...