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iOS very early-on took on a model of not trusting the software you install on it, and for good reason. Android and the web followed soon afterward. This is the

by _bxg1 6y ago

iOS very early-on took on a model of not trusting the software you install on it, and for good reason. Android and the web followed soon afterward. This is the expectation today. Doubly so given Apple's chest-beating about privacy. This clipboard scandal is unacceptable.

shawnz 6y ago
Android also had permissions from the beginning.
- _bxg1 6y ago
  It only declared and didn't let you individually toggle permissions until version 6.0. You just had to take-or-leave the app as-is. I don't know whether or not it declared them from the very beginning.
  - shawnz 6y ago
    It did have them from the beginning, and the set of supported permissions was quite substantial compared to what iOS offered. But you're right, iOS was first to have the ability to grant/revoke individual permissions at runtime
  - egypturnash 6y ago
    I remember giant take-it-or-leave-it permission warnings for apps back on 2.1 when I had my Nexus One. Updates that changed permissions would just give you the whole list again with no hint as to what had changed, it was awesome in its user-hostility.
maram 6y ago
> This clipboard scandal is unacceptable. What do you expect when the CEO holds an MBA?
sleepybrett 6y ago
I think i saw that some of the new betas of ios pop an alert whenever software sniffs your pasteboard.. maybe i'm wrong. Seems like I saw somethng during the tiktok stuff earlier this week.
ztjio 6y ago
Which is the whole point behind giving a notification about it. Clipboard use is so core and fundamental, literally every app with any kind of entry box would need to ask ahead or you'd hit that so randomly all the time nobody would pay any attention to the warning. The current feature being added allows this to happen, for awareness to be raised. To be honest, I'm surprised we haven't heard of more snoopy apps already, but, I guess that will come when the feature's out of beta.
- cortesoft 6y ago
  Apps wouldn't have to ask ahead for a text entry box.... you just have to only grant paste read access when a user explicitly chooses to paste by hitting a button.
- reificator 6y ago
  > Clipboard use is so core and fundamental, literally every app with any kind of entry box would need to ask ahead or you'd hit that so randomly all the time nobody would pay any attention to the warning. That's, one way to implement it... Alternatively, and how I'm pretty sure it already works, is that on paste the clipboard could insert content directly into the control, never involving the app in the process. Apps with completely custom inputs would need to see the contents, but that's both rare and usually a bad idea in the first place.

by _bxg1 6y ago

shawnz 6y ago

Android also had permissions from the beginning.

_bxg1 6y ago
It only declared and didn't let you individually toggle permissions until version 6.0. You just had to take-or-leave the app as-is. I don't know whether or not it declared them from the very beginning.
- shawnz 6y ago
  It did have them from the beginning, and the set of supported permissions was quite substantial compared to what iOS offered. But you're right, iOS was first to have the ability to grant/revoke individual permissions at runtime
- egypturnash 6y ago
  I remember giant take-it-or-leave-it permission warnings for apps back on 2.1 when I had my Nexus One. Updates that changed permissions would just give you the whole list again with no hint as to what had changed, it was awesome in its user-hostility.

maram 6y ago

> This clipboard scandal is unacceptable. What do you expect when the CEO holds an MBA?

sleepybrett 6y ago

I think i saw that some of the new betas of ios pop an alert whenever software sniffs your pasteboard.. maybe i'm wrong. Seems like I saw somethng during the tiktok stuff earlier this week.

ztjio 6y ago

Which is the whole point behind giving a notification about it. Clipboard use is so core and fundamental, literally every app with any kind of entry box would need to ask ahead or you'd hit that so randomly all the time nobody would pay any attention to the warning. The current feature being added allows this to happen, for awareness to be raised. To be honest, I'm surprised we haven't heard of more snoopy apps already, but, I guess that will come when the feature's out of beta.

cortesoft 6y ago
Apps wouldn't have to ask ahead for a text entry box.... you just have to only grant paste read access when a user explicitly chooses to paste by hitting a button.
reificator 6y ago
> Clipboard use is so core and fundamental, literally every app with any kind of entry box would need to ask ahead or you'd hit that so randomly all the time nobody would pay any attention to the warning. That's, one way to implement it... Alternatively, and how I'm pretty sure it already works, is that on paste the clipboard could insert content directly into the control, never involving the app in the process. Apps with completely custom inputs would need to see the contents, but that's both rare and usually a bad idea in the first place.