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Swastika is yet another example of "western universalism", it has a relatively recent negative connotation in Europe & US. Whereas for Asians, native Americans

Swastika is yet another example of "western universalism", it has a relatively recent negative connotation in Europe & US. Whereas for Asians, native Americans & for much of the ancient world it has entirely different meanings.

protomyth 6y ago
Yeah, there are a couple of tipis that go up every year that get comments from the damn ignorant. What can I expect from people looking for outrage?
- naruvimama 6y ago
  Meanwhile it is used by radical groups to run smear campaigns elsewhere in the world. https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/from-devi-in-hijab-om-as-nazi-symbol-to-kaafiro-se-azadi-recent-protests-show-hindutva-hate-is-hindu-hate https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/from-devi-in-hijab-om-as-...
  - protomyth 6y ago
    Well, that is them and this is us. I think expecting other cultures to stop using something because someone else "ruined" it is stupid. I'm also getting a little sick of down votes every damn time I mention Native Americans. I'm starting to wonder.
bastawhiz 6y ago
> it has a relatively recent negative connotation in Europe & US Seventeen million people died in the Holocaust. That number is larger than the dollar amount that many of the companies on this website raise. That's more people than you'll meet in your entire lifetime, perhaps more than you'll _see_ in your lifetime. This is the population of New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston put together. Those people were physically destroyed by folks identifying with that symbol. It's really, really hard to say this symbol doesn't carry hate universally—even if a Buddhist practitioner were to use it—because putting it on your video game car on _a global game_ whose audience is ~100% folks who are well-aware of nazism (and, in fact, people whose histories are tainted by the effects of the Holocaust). But more to the point, the confederate flag _was invented_ to represent hate. It had no established use before the confederacy. Pedantry about whether swastikas are universally racist or not is pointless, because the topic at hand is about a symbol which is universally recognized as one of hate.
- naruvimama 6y ago
  Origin and delibrate mistranslation to swastika https://www.facebook.com/upwordindia/videos/2662610620694569/?d=null&vh=e https://www.facebook.com/upwordindia/videos/2662610620694569...
- odshoifsdhfs 6y ago
  The crusades killed around 3 million. Can we ban the cross as well from everywhere? Please? The Mao era probably around 75 million. Lets ban any symbol related to them (sickle and hammer, red flags, etc). (ps: I am not in favor of the swastika, just don't like how a symbol can be used for thousands of years, hijacked by some pricks, and now everyone can't use it anymore, and the people that have an emotional connection to it have to censor themselves. Also, isn't the buddhist one reversed from the Nazi one? Mirrored? Which makes it even worse as you are using a similar but not exactly the same symbol and ignorant folks can't spot the difference)

protomyth 6y ago

Yeah, there are a couple of tipis that go up every year that get comments from the damn ignorant. What can I expect from people looking for outrage?

naruvimama 6y ago
Meanwhile it is used by radical groups to run smear campaigns elsewhere in the world. https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/from-devi-in-hijab-om-as-nazi-symbol-to-kaafiro-se-azadi-recent-protests-show-hindutva-hate-is-hindu-hate https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/from-devi-in-hijab-om-as-...
- protomyth 6y ago
  Well, that is them and this is us. I think expecting other cultures to stop using something because someone else "ruined" it is stupid. I'm also getting a little sick of down votes every damn time I mention Native Americans. I'm starting to wonder.

bastawhiz 6y ago

> it has a relatively recent negative connotation in Europe & US Seventeen million people died in the Holocaust. That number is larger than the dollar amount that many of the companies on this website raise. That's more people than you'll meet in your entire lifetime, perhaps more than you'll _see_ in your lifetime. This is the population of New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston put together. Those people were physically destroyed by folks identifying with that symbol. It's really, really hard to say this symbol doesn't carry hate universally—even if a Buddhist practitioner were to use it—because putting it on your video game car on _a global game_ whose audience is ~100% folks who are well-aware of nazism (and, in fact, people whose histories are tainted by the effects of the Holocaust). But more to the point, the confederate flag _was invented_ to represent hate. It had no established use before the confederacy. Pedantry about whether swastikas are universally racist or not is pointless, because the topic at hand is about a symbol which is universally recognized as one of hate.

naruvimama 6y ago
Origin and delibrate mistranslation to swastika https://www.facebook.com/upwordindia/videos/2662610620694569/?d=null&vh=e https://www.facebook.com/upwordindia/videos/2662610620694569...
odshoifsdhfs 6y ago
The crusades killed around 3 million. Can we ban the cross as well from everywhere? Please? The Mao era probably around 75 million. Lets ban any symbol related to them (sickle and hammer, red flags, etc). (ps: I am not in favor of the swastika, just don't like how a symbol can be used for thousands of years, hijacked by some pricks, and now everyone can't use it anymore, and the people that have an emotional connection to it have to censor themselves. Also, isn't the buddhist one reversed from the Nazi one? Mirrored? Which makes it even worse as you are using a similar but not exactly the same symbol and ignorant folks can't spot the difference)