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I looked into using Mirah for Android programming a while back. I took a 3D tutorial for Android (in Java) and tried to do exactly the same in Mirah. What I f

I looked into using Mirah for Android programming a while back. I took a 3D tutorial for Android (in Java) and tried to do exactly the same in Mirah. What I found was that it seemed to be (mostly) possible, but there was NO documentation on how to do most things. With someone's help, I got the tutorial working, except for 1 last bit at the end that wasn't really necessary yet. I never did figure out how to do that bit. This is the tutorial: http://www.droidnova.com/android-3d-game-tutorial-part-i,312.html http://www.droidnova.com/android-3d-game-tutorial-part-i,312... The part I never got working was the 'queueEvent' bit of the 'onTouchEvent' bit. Without queueing it, I could get it to work, but I could never figure how to queue it like that. My sources as I left them: https://github.com/wccrawford/Hello-Mirah--Android https://github.com/wccrawford/Hello-Mirah--Android Without any documentation or real info out there on Mirah, it was incredibly frustration just to get that far. I realize it's a new language, but I can't recommend its use at this point. It needs to mature and gather a community before it's worth investing serious time in.

Roboprog 16y ago
It looks promising, but I want a few things first as well: * docs (as mentioned) * some kind of javadoc / rubydoc mechanism (perhaps there is?) * a NetBeans plugin * a pony OK, maybe I can get by without the last one :-)
- headius 16y ago
  Docs...yes, we're getting there. Not all the languages features are even documented because they were added very quickly. It's coming along. I've been thinking about a MirahDoc format. I think we could pretty much do it like JavaDoc. Potentially even make it work with Doclets. There is an old NB plugin based on the Ruby plugin, but I doubt it works now. We'd love to have help here. The plugin is on github: https://github.com/mirah/mirah-netbeans-plugin https://github.com/mirah/mirah-netbeans-plugin. Of course we'd like help supporting Eclipse and IntelliJ too.
headius 16y ago
Yes, you are 100% correct. It is a very young language and project. I've spent the last several days trying to solidify a distribution (.zip), maven artifacts (with David Calavera's help) and refactor the codebase to make it more approachable. Last night I made some edits to the mirah.org web site, and today I may try to work on the wiki. There's definitely a lot missing as far as documentation and support, but we'll get there. I appreciate your feedback and links to your projects. They will help us learn what needs to be better documented, and also help us produce better error/info messages from the compiler. We'd also love to have your help :) This is OSS of course, so anything you can do to document your experiences (blog posts, add to wiki on github, ...) will help us and others.
messel 16y ago
That's great feedback for Charles. I suspect he's trying to settle down the language, then push for beautiful docs. The biggest push for accessibility and language adoption is great documentation. Cool example.
technomancy 16y ago
I put together Ferrante for Android using Mirah: http://github.com/technomancy/ferrante It took a lot of diving into undocumented things; it's definitely at the point where to do much you have to be ready to blaze your own trails. Though while writing Ferrante I factored out a bunch of the icky build things in Pindah, so it's much easier now: http://github.com/technomancy/ferrante http://github.com/technomancy/ferrante It's a huge improvement over a year ago, when I had to get Charles to fix a bunch of compiler issues just to get the simplest of apps to compile: http://github.com/technomancy/Garrett http://github.com/technomancy/Garrett

Roboprog 16y ago

It looks promising, but I want a few things first as well: * docs (as mentioned) * some kind of javadoc / rubydoc mechanism (perhaps there is?) * a NetBeans plugin * a pony OK, maybe I can get by without the last one :-)

headius 16y ago
Docs...yes, we're getting there. Not all the languages features are even documented because they were added very quickly. It's coming along. I've been thinking about a MirahDoc format. I think we could pretty much do it like JavaDoc. Potentially even make it work with Doclets. There is an old NB plugin based on the Ruby plugin, but I doubt it works now. We'd love to have help here. The plugin is on github: https://github.com/mirah/mirah-netbeans-plugin https://github.com/mirah/mirah-netbeans-plugin. Of course we'd like help supporting Eclipse and IntelliJ too.

headius 16y ago

Yes, you are 100% correct. It is a very young language and project. I've spent the last several days trying to solidify a distribution (.zip), maven artifacts (with David Calavera's help) and refactor the codebase to make it more approachable. Last night I made some edits to the mirah.org web site, and today I may try to work on the wiki. There's definitely a lot missing as far as documentation and support, but we'll get there. I appreciate your feedback and links to your projects. They will help us learn what needs to be better documented, and also help us produce better error/info messages from the compiler. We'd also love to have your help :) This is OSS of course, so anything you can do to document your experiences (blog posts, add to wiki on github, ...) will help us and others.

messel 16y ago

That's great feedback for Charles. I suspect he's trying to settle down the language, then push for beautiful docs. The biggest push for accessibility and language adoption is great documentation. Cool example.

technomancy 16y ago

I put together Ferrante for Android using Mirah: http://github.com/technomancy/ferrante It took a lot of diving into undocumented things; it's definitely at the point where to do much you have to be ready to blaze your own trails. Though while writing Ferrante I factored out a bunch of the icky build things in Pindah, so it's much easier now: http://github.com/technomancy/ferrante http://github.com/technomancy/ferrante It's a huge improvement over a year ago, when I had to get Charles to fix a bunch of compiler issues just to get the simplest of apps to compile: http://github.com/technomancy/Garrett http://github.com/technomancy/Garrett