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> The stars and bars, while also a Confederate symbol, is not really a notorious hate symbol Confusingly, people often use "the Confederate Flag" and "the star

by jefftk 6y ago

> The stars and bars, while also a Confederate symbol, is not really a notorious hate symbol Confusingly, people often use "the Confederate Flag" and "the stars and bars" to refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Battle_flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Battle_flag_of_the_Confed... While technically both terms refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America_(1861%E2%80%931863).svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Confederate_S... (and earlier variants) many people don't know that; look how many of the results on https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=stars+and+bars https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=stars+and+bars and especially https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=confederate+flag https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=confederate+flag are actually the "battle flag".

CrazyStat 6y ago
I think it'a fair at this point to say "the Confederate flag" refers to the battle flag (or the naval jack with the same design). Language is a living thing.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> While technically both terms refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Confederate_S.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Confederate_S.... (and earlier variants) Well, the Confederate Flag refers to that and later national flags (the Stars and Bars is the first Confederate national flag, the Stainless Banner—with the battle flag in the union and a solid white field—and the Bloodstained Banner—adding a broad vertical red stripe to the Stainless Banner) were the second and third. Not merely pedantic, it's worth noting that the Battle Flag is a key element of the later national flags, though not itself one of them. (Though what is often flown as the “Confederate flag” isn't the square battle flag, either, but closer to, if not exactly, the Naval Jack.)

by jefftk 6y ago

CrazyStat 6y ago

I think it'a fair at this point to say "the Confederate flag" refers to the battle flag (or the naval jack with the same design). Language is a living thing.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> While technically both terms refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Confederate_S.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Confederate_S.... (and earlier variants) Well, the Confederate Flag refers to that and later national flags (the Stars and Bars is the first Confederate national flag, the Stainless Banner—with the battle flag in the union and a solid white field—and the Bloodstained Banner—adding a broad vertical red stripe to the Stainless Banner) were the second and third. Not merely pedantic, it's worth noting that the Battle Flag is a key element of the later national flags, though not itself one of them. (Though what is often flown as the “Confederate flag” isn't the square battle flag, either, but closer to, if not exactly, the Naval Jack.)