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My post is simply about logic and who said what. Nothing more. Why can't you read it rationally? And, BTW, if you and other parents can't read it rationally, w
by xlnt 18y ago
My post is simply about logic and who said what. Nothing more. Why can't you read it rationally?
And, BTW, if you and other parents can't read it rationally, why should I believe you handle parenting matters rationally? Parenting matters are more difficult and more emotional than reading a simple forum post.
- pg 18y agoHere is the rational answer you seem to want. (a) This problem is so hard you can probably never solve it satisfactorily, and (b) you can't know what it's going to be like to have kids before you have them, or what your kids will be like. So however much thought you expend on the question before having kids, you're still going to be working on it afterward.
- xlnt 18y agoI didn't argue with that, or ask for an answer of that type, or say that davidw did anything wrong other than misread lisper's post. I thought the waterfall development link basically answered the question about advanced planning. I'm mostly interested in the emotional fragility of parents and wanted to see what would happen if I pointed out that logic does not back up his reaction.
- lurkage 18y ago"I'm mostly interested in the emotional fragility of parents and wanted to see what would happen if I pointed out that logic does not back up his reaction." = trolling
- xlnt 18y agoThe form of my post was to make correct, logical points. That is not trolling. The fact I had an honorable motivation -- learning -- does not suddenly make my posts worse.
- gruseom 18y agoxlnt isn't a troll. He just operates within a zone of disembodied rationality so robotic as to make Spock look like Oprah. Can I have my DH rating now? :)
- xlnt 18y agoHeh. Someone else told me today that I use "a lot of very emotive language" like a "preacher".
- menloparkbum 18y ago"and wanted to see what would happen" So you didn't really care what people had to say, you were just trying to bait them? i.e. you were being a troll on purpose?
- xlnt 18y agoDid you consider whether I would enjoy your post, prior to posting it? I wanted to learn something. Why did you post?
- menloparkbum 18y agoTo point out that you are a troll. Wasn't that evident in my posting?
- xlnt 18y agoHow does doing that benefit you? What's the reason to do it?
- Create 18y agoSociety has a response to (a) and (b). It is called a social net, based on solidarity: it works like insurance schemes should (not speaking of fraudulent market schemes, e.g. the US health insurance). I think the biggest problem is, that you despise pooling resources into social systems purportedly designed to help in (a) and (b). "Old" Europe has suffered enough in WWII to recognize the importance of it, and erect such a system, which is frowned upon by "risk tolerant entrepreneurship" (they have enough personal wealth to fall back on). This social net you are missing is being therefore dismantled in the EU as well, since it is regarded as uncompetitive compared to the US or China. It is a race to the bottom (if you compete with slaves, you become a slave*), of which the GOOG kindergarten is just a sign. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Norbert_Wiener http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Norbert_Wiener
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- davidw 18y agoWe live in Europe, and no, handouts not really the answer we're looking for. We're aiming at a flexible schedule for both of us in order to both have time with our daughter. The safety net stuff is nice in some ways, but it's not really what we're after.
- MaysonL 18y agoThe thing is - one of the biggest factors in making the decision is the child! And you cannot know what the child is like, until it is there, and even then it takes a while to get to know it. Children are unique, and very different, one from another. What will be best for one will not be for another.