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> Since you're talking about "easily accessible wildlife," please keep in mind that urbanization in Asia and Africa is a big thing. Yes, but unlike cities in t

> Since you're talking about "easily accessible wildlife," please keep in mind that urbanization in Asia and Africa is a big thing. Yes, but unlike cities in the west, a lot of cities across the world aren't that far from where wildlife is accessible. And this means, people from neighboring villages commute daily to the cities with the fresh catch of the day and make it available in urban markets. And in most countries, a huge population is still rural/semi urban, and this population tends to be more likely to be "poor". For e.g. 65% of India's population is rural and that still amounts to 700 million or twice the population of the United States. Also, although I used the term "wildlife", but I also said "(or farmed animals and birds)" which isn't that difficult to access in urban environments, especially considering lax zoning and unplanned development of cities still allows people to have those in the middle of an urban sprawl.

justin66 6y ago
> And in most countries, a huge population is still rural/semi urban China is 60% urban now, and that's another number that's only going to increase. I'm sure it's true enough that India and China, for example, are quite different, but your description that the issues surrounding fast food are a "uniquely western problem" strikes me as pretty obviously not true. The rise in worldwide obesity rates has to do largely with this change in diet, for example.
- darth_avocado 6y ago
  Right, but China isn't everything. 55% of the world population is Urban. But if you look at the distribution [1], you will see that my statement still holds true. Most countries in Asia and Africa still have a large rural population. And besides, I don't know if you've lived outside of the US, especially in parts of Asia or Africa, but processed food, even in big urban centers is not as big portion of people's diet as is in Western Countries. [1] https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.URB.TOTL.IN.ZS https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.URB.TOTL.IN.ZS
  - justin66 6y ago
    You said this was a "uniquely western problem." Uniquely.
    - darth_avocado 6y ago
      Yeah. Fast food is. Not urban population %.

justin66 6y ago

> And in most countries, a huge population is still rural/semi urban China is 60% urban now, and that's another number that's only going to increase. I'm sure it's true enough that India and China, for example, are quite different, but your description that the issues surrounding fast food are a "uniquely western problem" strikes me as pretty obviously not true. The rise in worldwide obesity rates has to do largely with this change in diet, for example.

darth_avocado 6y ago
Right, but China isn't everything. 55% of the world population is Urban. But if you look at the distribution [1], you will see that my statement still holds true. Most countries in Asia and Africa still have a large rural population. And besides, I don't know if you've lived outside of the US, especially in parts of Asia or Africa, but processed food, even in big urban centers is not as big portion of people's diet as is in Western Countries. [1] https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.URB.TOTL.IN.ZS https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.URB.TOTL.IN.ZS
- justin66 6y ago
  You said this was a "uniquely western problem." Uniquely.
  - darth_avocado 6y ago
    Yeah. Fast food is. Not urban population %.