> in an engineering organisation This is a key point, but People might say "software is eating the world", but many organizations are not yet at this point. Yo

> in an engineering organisation This is a key point, but People might say "software is eating the world", but many organizations are not yet at this point. You can find modern healthcare or pharma organizations which are doing real engineering, but this is still the exception in many places. What you find is organizations which can still survive on old technology and the processes which got them there. At some point modernization will also have meant outsourcing tech to the lowest bidder. You have an organization which is unfit for engineering in the current state and the architects are more familiar with managing this process work than doing what folks here would consider real engineering. These organizations are ripe for modernization. They have aging tech and tenured teams which can only make very incremental improvements. As market conditions change, leadership may decide that they really need to make changes and these people will be cast aside. It's a somewhat double-edge sword because the old folks do have value in that they understand all of the details of their business processes which are apparent to even a really good engineering and product team replacing them.