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Start your own blog. The internet isnt just SV companies. There's nothing stopping you from creating your own platform that espouses your ideals.

by ideals 6y ago

gruez 6y ago
I think his point is that at the end of the day, you're going to be dependent on someone. With a self hosted blog you're dependent on at least an ISP and registrar, both of which are private entities.
- remmargorp64 6y ago
  These are good points. It sounds like a big part of the problem is that we don't have a truly "public" internet, if the backbone of the internet is a bunch of private entities. We need a truly decentralized internet that doesn't suck like tor currently does.
- ideals 6y ago
  Your ISP is a utility. Twitter is not. Your ISP cannot block you from hosting your own blog on your own servers. Even if your ISP did, there are places which will allow you to host whatever you want. Alex Jones is still online for example. WikiLeaks is still online. This argument is always about people complaining that they don't get to participate on the big platforms. But if there was so much demand for people shouting about racist loser shit online there would be a big platform for it. It's their responsibility to build it, not Twitter's
  - daenz 6y ago
    >people shouting about racist loser shit This is exactly what I was talking about here[0]. You don't want a place to post freely to exist because you already have a preconceived idea of what people will say, and you are against that. This kind of attitude is hidden behind so many of the "but you can already do X, kinda" responses I've seen before in these discussions. Why not just lead by saying you don't think a government maintained platform for free speech should exist because you don't want to hear what people who want it would have to say? 0. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23716909 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23716909
    - amanaplanacanal 6y ago
      I don’t have any problem with a government provided free speech platform. It would be an interesting experiment. But how are you going to get Congress to fund something that will host racists and pornographers?
      - krapp 6y ago
        The Republicans will allow the racists, and the Democrats will allow the pornographers. Done and done.

Start your own blog. The internet isnt just SV companies. There's nothing stopping you from creating your own platform that espouses your ideals.

by ideals 6y ago

Start your own blog. The internet isnt just SV companies. There's nothing stopping you from creating your own platform that espouses your ideals.

gruez 6y ago

I think his point is that at the end of the day, you're going to be dependent on someone. With a self hosted blog you're dependent on at least an ISP and registrar, both of which are private entities.

remmargorp64 6y ago
These are good points. It sounds like a big part of the problem is that we don't have a truly "public" internet, if the backbone of the internet is a bunch of private entities. We need a truly decentralized internet that doesn't suck like tor currently does.
ideals 6y ago
Your ISP is a utility. Twitter is not. Your ISP cannot block you from hosting your own blog on your own servers. Even if your ISP did, there are places which will allow you to host whatever you want. Alex Jones is still online for example. WikiLeaks is still online. This argument is always about people complaining that they don't get to participate on the big platforms. But if there was so much demand for people shouting about racist loser shit online there would be a big platform for it. It's their responsibility to build it, not Twitter's
- daenz 6y ago
  >people shouting about racist loser shit This is exactly what I was talking about here[0]. You don't want a place to post freely to exist because you already have a preconceived idea of what people will say, and you are against that. This kind of attitude is hidden behind so many of the "but you can already do X, kinda" responses I've seen before in these discussions. Why not just lead by saying you don't think a government maintained platform for free speech should exist because you don't want to hear what people who want it would have to say? 0. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23716909 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23716909
  - amanaplanacanal 6y ago
    I don’t have any problem with a government provided free speech platform. It would be an interesting experiment. But how are you going to get Congress to fund something that will host racists and pornographers?
    - krapp 6y ago
      The Republicans will allow the racists, and the Democrats will allow the pornographers. Done and done.