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Personally, I think people that move to lower-taxation states are going to be in for a rude awakening when they realize how poorly funded local infrastructure i

Personally, I think people that move to lower-taxation states are going to be in for a rude awakening when they realize how poorly funded local infrastructure is and how much they took for granted. Speaking as someone that's lived all across the US, I don't think people understand how dire even the major non-coastal cities can be.

rhexs 6y ago
While I understand this was most likely posted in a fit of brief anger, the non-coastal areas are not a desolate wasteland.
- fzeroracer 6y ago
  If you rely on public transit, biking or walking then they absolutely are a desolate wasteland. If you're relying on raising a family, property might be cheaper but often the best school, universities and opportunities are located in or close to the major coastal cities. There might be a few 'tech oasis's' (such as Austin) but if you move or live close to those cities you'll find that CoL quickly rises with fewer benefits than living near the coast.
  - DevKoala 6y ago
    The “best schools” have been exposed for the scam they are under the pandemic. The schools can’t open and are providing the next few semesters of lectures through Zoom while trying to keep their prices. In turn, students are suing for lower tuition. I hope these institutions crash as they only serve as gatekeepers of career progress favoring those with money. Google’s employee performance indicators show that there is no correlation between the prestige of the school an employee graduated from and the success of the employee at the company. That lead them to ditch the college degree requirements for good.
  - nitrogen 6y ago
    SF's roads and highways are abysmal. I've had smoother rides on graded dirt roads. Plenty of places are doing just fine, and you don't have to worry about catching covid while trapped in a sardine can under the bay.
  - ralfhn 6y ago
    The two most bike-friendly cities in the US (Minneapolis and Portland) are not on or near the coast. Any "best schools" ranking will show you that at least 7 out of the first 10 districts are not in coastal cities. I'm not sure where you've lived before or if you have family or kids to have researched this matter seriously but the US offers a lot of choice depending on where you are in life and how you want to live it. Discarding half the country as a "desolate wasteland" can only narrow your options in life.
ralfhn 6y ago
Interesting. Can you give some examples of things you take for granted in a costal city that you don't get in a major non-coastal one? what does "local infrastructure" mean here? because I know schools, for instance, are way worse in coastal cities with high taxes than, say, the midwest.
ratfaced-guy 6y ago
This is funny because I have found this to be the exact opposite. Utah, Florida, Texas has better infrastructure than California, New York, Massachusetts. Are some low-tax states shitholes? Yes, but there are definitely low-taxation states that are well run. It really has nothing to do with the rate of taxation (beyond a certain point), it's more about the quality of government and the priorities of where the spending should go.
- fzeroracer 6y ago
  You'd have to describe where in Texas you're referring to and what you mean by infrastructure, because Austin is embarrassingly bad when it comes to public transit and general walkability and Houston faces similar growing pains due to being incredibly underfunded and our state government being a shitshow.

rhexs 6y ago

While I understand this was most likely posted in a fit of brief anger, the non-coastal areas are not a desolate wasteland.

fzeroracer 6y ago
If you rely on public transit, biking or walking then they absolutely are a desolate wasteland. If you're relying on raising a family, property might be cheaper but often the best school, universities and opportunities are located in or close to the major coastal cities. There might be a few 'tech oasis's' (such as Austin) but if you move or live close to those cities you'll find that CoL quickly rises with fewer benefits than living near the coast.
- DevKoala 6y ago
  The “best schools” have been exposed for the scam they are under the pandemic. The schools can’t open and are providing the next few semesters of lectures through Zoom while trying to keep their prices. In turn, students are suing for lower tuition. I hope these institutions crash as they only serve as gatekeepers of career progress favoring those with money. Google’s employee performance indicators show that there is no correlation between the prestige of the school an employee graduated from and the success of the employee at the company. That lead them to ditch the college degree requirements for good.
- nitrogen 6y ago
  SF's roads and highways are abysmal. I've had smoother rides on graded dirt roads. Plenty of places are doing just fine, and you don't have to worry about catching covid while trapped in a sardine can under the bay.
- ralfhn 6y ago
  The two most bike-friendly cities in the US (Minneapolis and Portland) are not on or near the coast. Any "best schools" ranking will show you that at least 7 out of the first 10 districts are not in coastal cities. I'm not sure where you've lived before or if you have family or kids to have researched this matter seriously but the US offers a lot of choice depending on where you are in life and how you want to live it. Discarding half the country as a "desolate wasteland" can only narrow your options in life.

ralfhn 6y ago

Interesting. Can you give some examples of things you take for granted in a costal city that you don't get in a major non-coastal one? what does "local infrastructure" mean here? because I know schools, for instance, are way worse in coastal cities with high taxes than, say, the midwest.

ratfaced-guy 6y ago

This is funny because I have found this to be the exact opposite. Utah, Florida, Texas has better infrastructure than California, New York, Massachusetts. Are some low-tax states shitholes? Yes, but there are definitely low-taxation states that are well run. It really has nothing to do with the rate of taxation (beyond a certain point), it's more about the quality of government and the priorities of where the spending should go.

fzeroracer 6y ago
You'd have to describe where in Texas you're referring to and what you mean by infrastructure, because Austin is embarrassingly bad when it comes to public transit and general walkability and Houston faces similar growing pains due to being incredibly underfunded and our state government being a shitshow.