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I am NOT a security export, just an observer, but saying "Contrary to popular belief, modern Android is pretty secure." (Which is how this post finishes) sounds

I am NOT a security export, just an observer, but saying "Contrary to popular belief, modern Android is pretty secure." (Which is how this post finishes) sounds pretty much like something I'd agree with, but saying "Your Android might be the most secure device you own" isn't really something that I'd agree with as much. I don't even know how one would really measure these things in a reliable and objective way. Do we compare it to IOS or Windows or ChromeOS or MacOS? Which version of Android and so on. The post picks out the best things about Android, nothing wrong with that, but isn't that just ignoring all the problems with Android? I agree though, Android is pretty secure, but so is everything else.

p410n3 6y ago
Hm guess I subconsciously chose an clickbaity title... Well in my case, I use Debian as my main operating system on my Desktop. Debian is great, but as a classical desktop OS it does not have those cool security things like app sandboxing, permissions management (camera acces etc) and stuff like that. Which makes sense, since mobile Operating Systems were designed from the ground up way later and also seem to move at a faster pace. The fact alone that almostt all ANdroid Apps run in the JVM and are written in memory safe languages is a huge plus that the GNU/Linux family does not have. (Solely speaking about security, I wouldnt want my /bin/sh to be in java) In my particular case, it suprised me to find out that my android is the most secure device I own. Thus the title (and the intention to wrote this post). So yeah, misleading title. Kinda. My Bad. Updated the title
- zokier 6y ago
  The big difference between Debian and Android is that with Debian you don't generally want or need to run untrusted or untrustworthy 3rd party code. Instead your software comes from trusted source with maintenance promise and security updates. And I'm starting to think that is better model than trying to sandbox and lock down everything; the world needs more trust at certain places. In contrast you are no way able to trust random Android apps, neither the quality or the intentions, so you are left with actively hostile relationship between you, the OS, and the apps.
  - p410n3 6y ago
    I'm saving this. Very good point

p410n3 6y ago

Hm guess I subconsciously chose an clickbaity title... Well in my case, I use Debian as my main operating system on my Desktop. Debian is great, but as a classical desktop OS it does not have those cool security things like app sandboxing, permissions management (camera acces etc) and stuff like that. Which makes sense, since mobile Operating Systems were designed from the ground up way later and also seem to move at a faster pace. The fact alone that almostt all ANdroid Apps run in the JVM and are written in memory safe languages is a huge plus that the GNU/Linux family does not have. (Solely speaking about security, I wouldnt want my /bin/sh to be in java) In my particular case, it suprised me to find out that my android is the most secure device I own. Thus the title (and the intention to wrote this post). So yeah, misleading title. Kinda. My Bad. Updated the title

zokier 6y ago
The big difference between Debian and Android is that with Debian you don't generally want or need to run untrusted or untrustworthy 3rd party code. Instead your software comes from trusted source with maintenance promise and security updates. And I'm starting to think that is better model than trying to sandbox and lock down everything; the world needs more trust at certain places. In contrast you are no way able to trust random Android apps, neither the quality or the intentions, so you are left with actively hostile relationship between you, the OS, and the apps.
- p410n3 6y ago
  I'm saving this. Very good point