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Zuckerberg: Advertisers will be back to Facebook 'soon enough'

6 points by MindGods 6y ago

blinding-streak 6y ago
And Zuck is right, they will come back eventually. Facebook seems to drive a lot of value for advertisers, due to the amazing targeting ability they provide. They know so much about people, it's scary. And while people make a lot of noise about deleting their FB accounts, the truth is that those only represent a tiny fraction of overall usage. Not enough to make a material dent. I think the only real way for lasting change to take hold against Facebook is for individuals to openly boycott companies that advertise on Facebook. But even that is difficult to do and maintain. Facebook is in a very strong position. If they truly needed to change to survive, they would have already done it.
pmdulaney 6y ago
I'm not on Facebook and I don't follow this kind of news too closely, so tell me: Is _anyone_ taking a stand in favor of Facebook in this controversy? I suspect that those who agree with Zuckerberg (unless they're nobodies like me) are keeping mum because no one wants to go against the activist left. What Zuckerberg is trying to uphold is the long-standing democratic notion of freedom of expression. Is it just out of the goodness of his heart? Probably not. Perhaps the Trump administration is putting pressure on him to ensure that Facebook is not a politically biased platform. We have become a severely divided country ideologically. The civilized, the American way of dealing with it is to live and let live. The expression of an idea that you don't agree with does not hurt you! Ignore it. Trust that, as the Whole Earth Catalog used to say, "Cream rises". The best will win out.
- hindsightbias 6y ago
  > “Jefferson-allied papers accused President Adams of being a hermaphrodite and a hypocrite, while Adams’ camp attacked Jefferson’s racial heritage, accusing him of being “the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father” as well as an atheist and libertine” We’ve always been divided. The differences have just been suppressed at times by those in control of the levers.
  - pmdulaney 6y ago
    I'll grant you that our situation now is not unprecedented, but I would still say that if there were an objective measure of divisiveness that 2020 would come in well above the average of the last 100 years. But more importantly, what do you think? Should we be suppressing unpopular views on social media?
    - hindsightbias 6y ago
      Not effective, need to suppress social media if we want a stable society.
      - pmdulaney 6y ago
        So you're in favor of suppression of free speech so as to enhance the stability of society? If so, we disagree.

6 points by MindGods 6y ago

And Zuck is right, they will come back eventually. Facebook seems to drive a lot of value for advertisers, due to the amazing targeting ability they provide. They know so much about people, it's scary. And while people make a lot of noise about deleting their FB accounts, the truth is that those only represent a tiny fraction of overall usage. Not enough to make a material dent. I think the only real way for lasting change to take hold against Facebook is for individuals to openly boycott companies that advertise on Facebook. But even that is difficult to do and maintain. Facebook is in a very strong position. If they truly needed to change to survive, they would have already done it.

pmdulaney 6y ago

I'm not on Facebook and I don't follow this kind of news too closely, so tell me: Is _anyone_ taking a stand in favor of Facebook in this controversy? I suspect that those who agree with Zuckerberg (unless they're nobodies like me) are keeping mum because no one wants to go against the activist left. What Zuckerberg is trying to uphold is the long-standing democratic notion of freedom of expression. Is it just out of the goodness of his heart? Probably not. Perhaps the Trump administration is putting pressure on him to ensure that Facebook is not a politically biased platform. We have become a severely divided country ideologically. The civilized, the American way of dealing with it is to live and let live. The expression of an idea that you don't agree with does not hurt you! Ignore it. Trust that, as the Whole Earth Catalog used to say, "Cream rises". The best will win out.

hindsightbias 6y ago
> “Jefferson-allied papers accused President Adams of being a hermaphrodite and a hypocrite, while Adams’ camp attacked Jefferson’s racial heritage, accusing him of being “the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father” as well as an atheist and libertine” We’ve always been divided. The differences have just been suppressed at times by those in control of the levers.
- pmdulaney 6y ago
  I'll grant you that our situation now is not unprecedented, but I would still say that if there were an objective measure of divisiveness that 2020 would come in well above the average of the last 100 years. But more importantly, what do you think? Should we be suppressing unpopular views on social media?
  - hindsightbias 6y ago
    Not effective, need to suppress social media if we want a stable society.
    - pmdulaney 6y ago
      So you're in favor of suppression of free speech so as to enhance the stability of society? If so, we disagree.