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I'm not sure why a reply disappeared here, but I feel like reaffirming its late content: >The strength of Apple products is to be perceived as a higher value t

I'm not sure why a reply disappeared here, but I feel like reaffirming its late content: >The strength of Apple products is to be perceived as a higher value thanks to design and marketing. People would buy a Gucci t-shirt for 300$, it's also particularly expensive for a t-shirt. At this point people don't buy the product for its intrinsic value, but for status and perceived value.

close04 6y ago
While the brand always commands a premium (Gucci, Apple, etc.) the comparison is unfair. Fashion is all about image, not functionality so a Gucci t-shirt is for all intents and purposes a regular t-shirt with a Gucci logo (or worse [0]). In tech most companies do struggle to bring something all of their own. Apple in particular does an above average job at this: dedicated OS, dedicated CPUs, dedicated various other chips (like the T, W, U chips). Saying it's only a logo is disingenuous. [0] https://www.dailycal.org/2013/07/19/kanye-wests-ridiculously-expensive-plain-white-t-shirt-is-sadly-a-hot-item/ https://www.dailycal.org/2013/07/19/kanye-wests-ridiculously...
- tkeAmarktinClss 6y ago
  Extremely debatable. There are uncountable negatives as an Apple consumer. Sure you might have a few benefits, but you must deal with unavoidable pains at every turn.
  - bryanrasmussen 6y ago
    I agree there are uncountable negatives as an Apple consumer, but I'm not sure they are any greater in number than the uncountable negatives of being a Windows consumer - and I kind of like Windows. Or for that matter if you're not a developer the uncountable negatives of Ubuntu.
    - tkeAmarktinClss 6y ago
      Ubuntu server is flawless, you take that back :P Ubuntu desktop... I tried multiple times across multiple decades, I've given up. Not sure what Windows issues exist outside licences disappearing upon reformatting. But that's still exponentially cheaper to fix then any Apple product.
      - bryanrasmussen 6y ago
        >Not sure what Windows issues exist outside licences well, perhaps not for you and I guess not really, in my experience, for me, but I have noticed that the population at large seems to suffer recurrent damage related to some ancient decisions made regarding Windows security.
valuearb 6y ago
Lol. I remember when the iMac Pro was released at $4999, and many said they could build their own for a fraction of the cost, and it turned out the parts alone were $4500. Without design, packaging, and warranty. 5k & 4K screens, aluminum bodied laptops, MagSafe connectors, MacOS, high performance SSD read/write speeds, T2 onboard security, fusion drives, etc, etc, People pretend design and development is free, then bitch about their plastic crap cheap laptop.

close04 6y ago

While the brand always commands a premium (Gucci, Apple, etc.) the comparison is unfair. Fashion is all about image, not functionality so a Gucci t-shirt is for all intents and purposes a regular t-shirt with a Gucci logo (or worse [0]). In tech most companies do struggle to bring something all of their own. Apple in particular does an above average job at this: dedicated OS, dedicated CPUs, dedicated various other chips (like the T, W, U chips). Saying it's only a logo is disingenuous. [0] https://www.dailycal.org/2013/07/19/kanye-wests-ridiculously-expensive-plain-white-t-shirt-is-sadly-a-hot-item/ https://www.dailycal.org/2013/07/19/kanye-wests-ridiculously...

tkeAmarktinClss 6y ago
Extremely debatable. There are uncountable negatives as an Apple consumer. Sure you might have a few benefits, but you must deal with unavoidable pains at every turn.
- bryanrasmussen 6y ago
  I agree there are uncountable negatives as an Apple consumer, but I'm not sure they are any greater in number than the uncountable negatives of being a Windows consumer - and I kind of like Windows. Or for that matter if you're not a developer the uncountable negatives of Ubuntu.
  - tkeAmarktinClss 6y ago
    Ubuntu server is flawless, you take that back :P Ubuntu desktop... I tried multiple times across multiple decades, I've given up. Not sure what Windows issues exist outside licences disappearing upon reformatting. But that's still exponentially cheaper to fix then any Apple product.
    - bryanrasmussen 6y ago
      >Not sure what Windows issues exist outside licences well, perhaps not for you and I guess not really, in my experience, for me, but I have noticed that the population at large seems to suffer recurrent damage related to some ancient decisions made regarding Windows security.

valuearb 6y ago

Lol. I remember when the iMac Pro was released at $4999, and many said they could build their own for a fraction of the cost, and it turned out the parts alone were $4500. Without design, packaging, and warranty. 5k & 4K screens, aluminum bodied laptops, MagSafe connectors, MacOS, high performance SSD read/write speeds, T2 onboard security, fusion drives, etc, etc, People pretend design and development is free, then bitch about their plastic crap cheap laptop.