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I'm confused. So I have to pay $249 for a sensor, then pay $9/month to have any real access to the data? Biggest ripoff ever. I know HN is all about monthly bi

by mv 16y ago

I'm confused. So I have to pay $249 for a sensor, then pay $9/month to have any real access to the data? Biggest ripoff ever. I know HN is all about monthly billing, but it seems like these guys are really reaching on this product. The amount of 'work' this company is doing for that $9/month plan is almost nill.

tmchow 16y ago
Looking at the product there is definitely real IP in the hardware, and paying for a service shouldn't be a surprise. They're a real company. You couldn't argue you aren't interested in the value they provide, but questioning the fact that running a service costs money is ridiculous.
- prodigal_erik 16y ago
  I don't question that running a service should cost money. I question why hardware I buy and host should be apparently unable to do its job without relying on an external service whose survival is not assured. It's another instance of building an appliance for consumers that could have been a full-fledged tool we relate to as human beings.
- drdaeman 16y ago
  "Real IP" is not a reason. They just charge because they can. And one is free to chose whenever they want to pay or not — there are always alternatives.
  - adnanmahmud 16y ago
    It is also worthwhile to note that you don't need the monthly subscription. You can always see your live data for free.
daniel-cussen 16y ago
It makes sense to pay $9 if it saves you enough money on your electric bill. (You have to factor the $249 in too.) That being said, it looks like a gaint pain in the ass to install, at least for now. I'd spring for it if I was paying my own light bill, but I wouldn't expect less-technical people to.
dualogy 16y ago
They should probably target at businesses small and bigger at these price points. 9$ a month or even 29$ might be awesome for bigger warehouses, shopping centres or office towers etc.

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I'm confused. So I have to pay $249 for a sensor, then pay $9/month to have any real access to the data? Biggest ripoff ever. I know HN is all about monthly bi

by mv 16y ago

tmchow 16y ago
Looking at the product there is definitely real IP in the hardware, and paying for a service shouldn't be a surprise. They're a real company. You couldn't argue you aren't interested in the value they provide, but questioning the fact that running a service costs money is ridiculous.
- prodigal_erik 16y ago
  I don't question that running a service should cost money. I question why hardware I buy and host should be apparently unable to do its job without relying on an external service whose survival is not assured. It's another instance of building an appliance for consumers that could have been a full-fledged tool we relate to as human beings.
- drdaeman 16y ago
  "Real IP" is not a reason. They just charge because they can. And one is free to chose whenever they want to pay or not — there are always alternatives.
  - adnanmahmud 16y ago
    It is also worthwhile to note that you don't need the monthly subscription. You can always see your live data for free.
daniel-cussen 16y ago
It makes sense to pay $9 if it saves you enough money on your electric bill. (You have to factor the $249 in too.) That being said, it looks like a gaint pain in the ass to install, at least for now. I'd spring for it if I was paying my own light bill, but I wouldn't expect less-technical people to.
dualogy 16y ago
They should probably target at businesses small and bigger at these price points. 9$ a month or even 29$ might be awesome for bigger warehouses, shopping centres or office towers etc.