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>a smartphone with free games "games" with constant ads and horrible pay-to-win mechanics. Even Nintendo can't release an honest game for mobile - I was excite

>a smartphone with free games "games" with constant ads and horrible pay-to-win mechanics. Even Nintendo can't release an honest game for mobile - I was excited by the mobile Dr. Mario until it turned out to be the same horseshit as the rest of the ecosystem, needing paid tokens to be allowed to play more levels in a day and all that. Who wants to make Angry Birds anymore when it's more profitable to trap people with bait and switch gacha games stuffed full of ads? A good mobile game is extremely rare.

ATsch 6y ago
flash games, especially later ones, had this too.
zwirbl 6y ago
Had to google gacha, nice that there is a catchy word for this awful mechanic
thearchitect1 6y ago
That's why I pirate
- pull_my_finger 6y ago
  Sounds like the chicken and the egg. Game makers use in-game micro transactions because people just steal the game/ don't want to pay for a game, and you say you steal the game because they use micro transactions. More likely, studios produces shitty games because people still support them and it's an easy model, and people steal games because they don't want to pay for stuff. Better solution is to support indie devs that produce good games and stop supporting/stealing/playing the shitty studio games.
  - me_me_me 6y ago
    > in-game micro transactions Those are used in full price games. Its because they extract much greater amounts of money form player base. So that is weak argument for all those starving game-makers. Sure some smaller ones are hurting from the piracy, but people who pirate are usually ones who don't have money to buy games in a first place. When i was young I pirated games as we were poor. Now I don't pirate because its more convenient for me to just buy things I like.
whywhywhywhy 6y ago
Not gonna change unless the market changes, if smart phone gamers were willing to spend $20-$60 on games then you would get the quality of games you get on the Switch and no ads, and people buy it, I say $60 because Animal Crossing was that much and people bought it. But it seems they would rather just have it free and have it subsidized by ads and exploiting whales.
- Mirioron 6y ago
  I doubt it. I think if people paid that much we'd still have the same types of games, but they'd simply cost more. PC games are becoming more like mobile games, not the other way around.
hombre_fatal 6y ago
Sure, there're those games. Then there's Fortnight on the smartphone. Kongregate can't just compete with the crappy adware games and call it a day. It also has to compete with games like Fortnight. Browser games are almost completely absent from both the multiplayer and AAA space. That is very hard to compete with.

ATsch 6y ago

flash games, especially later ones, had this too.

zwirbl 6y ago

Had to google gacha, nice that there is a catchy word for this awful mechanic

thearchitect1 6y ago

That's why I pirate

pull_my_finger 6y ago
Sounds like the chicken and the egg. Game makers use in-game micro transactions because people just steal the game/ don't want to pay for a game, and you say you steal the game because they use micro transactions. More likely, studios produces shitty games because people still support them and it's an easy model, and people steal games because they don't want to pay for stuff. Better solution is to support indie devs that produce good games and stop supporting/stealing/playing the shitty studio games.
- me_me_me 6y ago
  > in-game micro transactions Those are used in full price games. Its because they extract much greater amounts of money form player base. So that is weak argument for all those starving game-makers. Sure some smaller ones are hurting from the piracy, but people who pirate are usually ones who don't have money to buy games in a first place. When i was young I pirated games as we were poor. Now I don't pirate because its more convenient for me to just buy things I like.

whywhywhywhy 6y ago

Not gonna change unless the market changes, if smart phone gamers were willing to spend $20-$60 on games then you would get the quality of games you get on the Switch and no ads, and people buy it, I say $60 because Animal Crossing was that much and people bought it. But it seems they would rather just have it free and have it subsidized by ads and exploiting whales.

Mirioron 6y ago
I doubt it. I think if people paid that much we'd still have the same types of games, but they'd simply cost more. PC games are becoming more like mobile games, not the other way around.

hombre_fatal 6y ago

Sure, there're those games. Then there's Fortnight on the smartphone. Kongregate can't just compete with the crappy adware games and call it a day. It also has to compete with games like Fortnight. Browser games are almost completely absent from both the multiplayer and AAA space. That is very hard to compete with.