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I miss forums. Not reddit, but things like vBulletin. It felt like a community of people you would get to know instead of a faceless mass.

labster 6y ago
They still exist. Find a small community and join it. I’m on a forum of about 100 people who chat about crossover fanfiction, with a good share of us writing our own fics. And other random topics too, of course. It’s fun, self-hosted, and no news feed. Maybe it can still exist because of the high proportion content creators, making the community feel like a community.
manigandham 6y ago
Plenty are still around but they’re extremely hard to monetize and have been mostly replaced by social media.
- rob74 6y ago
  In this case, I imagine "monetize" actually means "at least earn some money so the people hosting it don't have to cover all the costs from their own pocket"...
  - manigandham 6y ago
    Yes, and that's what led to most of them being sold pretty quickly as costs piled up. Internet Brands and VerticalScope were 2 of the major companies that bought out and consolidated a lot of them. They're still around but the space has changed a lot and the forum software is outdated too. It's much cheaper to run servers now but most people have moved on to social or chat groups.
  - vertex-four 6y ago
    The costs of running a forum of 100-1000 people (like many of the forums you might remember) are basically $5 a month and a bunch of time.
    - hombre_fatal 6y ago
      100-1000 concurrent users? I'd round that up to at least $100/mo if you know what you're doing. $5/mo is how Akismet spam detection costs.
      - vertex-four 6y ago
        No, people who check in and post a couple times a day or so. The forums I loved (and some I still love, such as various fan forums the rollercoaster community runs), at least, weren't places where there was something new to consume every refresh where you'd sit on the site all day and refresh every 5 minutes - that... would've been extremely expensive on dial-up internet, for a start. You checked in with the community ever so often, and if there were people you got along with really well you'd add them on a messenger application! Unlike reddit, if you didn't get a response within 10 minutes, it didn't mean your post would sink into obscurity... probably everybody on the forum would at least see the title by the weekend. You don't need to be paying for spam detection on a small community forum that is being actively moderated. Set up the software to prevent newbies from making new threads without moderator approval, use a DNSBL, have spam reports from anyone who's been around longer than a week automatically hide posts, remove said privilege from people who abuse it. I've never had a serious spam problem on a small forum I was actively moderating. Same with mailing lists. Also, if you do feel like you need spam detection, Akismet is available for free if your forum, like many, is non-commercial.
spicymaki 6y ago
Yes! The faceless mass is caused because the "community" has gotten way too large. If you want a better experience, you need to build your own community based on your interests and keep it from getting too large and unmanageable.
- chrisco255 6y ago
  Yeah but also not so small that it dies off from non-use. Tricky balance to keep there.
- cjsawyer 6y ago
  Maybe this is an unavoidable byproduct of having everybody on the web... I started using it around 2005, I can’t imagine how people who started with homepages and newsgroups must feel.
  - mtrower 6y ago
    Ornery and irritable - not really that technology moved on, but mostly for what could have been but wasn't. Additionally, bemusement - watching people go crazy over Reddit and Slack, when all I can see is glitzy, more newbie-friendly, centralized incarnations of Usenet and IRC. Don't even get me started with Facebook (though, I hear FB isn't even popular with today's kids - rather, it's that thing old people use.)
lsiebert 6y ago
One of the reasons I like Metafilter is the community.
whereistimbo 6y ago
forums.darknedgy.net needs more people!
baud147258 6y ago
I'm part of a few forums, all which serve a niche. And on the smallest of them the community of people is real (though it's often in a us-vs-them way).
softsound 6y ago
I think forums still exist but are just different, look at Discord.

labster 6y ago

They still exist. Find a small community and join it. I’m on a forum of about 100 people who chat about crossover fanfiction, with a good share of us writing our own fics. And other random topics too, of course. It’s fun, self-hosted, and no news feed. Maybe it can still exist because of the high proportion content creators, making the community feel like a community.

manigandham 6y ago

Plenty are still around but they’re extremely hard to monetize and have been mostly replaced by social media.

rob74 6y ago
In this case, I imagine "monetize" actually means "at least earn some money so the people hosting it don't have to cover all the costs from their own pocket"...
- manigandham 6y ago
  Yes, and that's what led to most of them being sold pretty quickly as costs piled up. Internet Brands and VerticalScope were 2 of the major companies that bought out and consolidated a lot of them. They're still around but the space has changed a lot and the forum software is outdated too. It's much cheaper to run servers now but most people have moved on to social or chat groups.
- vertex-four 6y ago
  The costs of running a forum of 100-1000 people (like many of the forums you might remember) are basically $5 a month and a bunch of time.
  - hombre_fatal 6y ago
    100-1000 concurrent users? I'd round that up to at least $100/mo if you know what you're doing. $5/mo is how Akismet spam detection costs.
    - vertex-four 6y ago
      No, people who check in and post a couple times a day or so. The forums I loved (and some I still love, such as various fan forums the rollercoaster community runs), at least, weren't places where there was something new to consume every refresh where you'd sit on the site all day and refresh every 5 minutes - that... would've been extremely expensive on dial-up internet, for a start. You checked in with the community ever so often, and if there were people you got along with really well you'd add them on a messenger application! Unlike reddit, if you didn't get a response within 10 minutes, it didn't mean your post would sink into obscurity... probably everybody on the forum would at least see the title by the weekend. You don't need to be paying for spam detection on a small community forum that is being actively moderated. Set up the software to prevent newbies from making new threads without moderator approval, use a DNSBL, have spam reports from anyone who's been around longer than a week automatically hide posts, remove said privilege from people who abuse it. I've never had a serious spam problem on a small forum I was actively moderating. Same with mailing lists. Also, if you do feel like you need spam detection, Akismet is available for free if your forum, like many, is non-commercial.

spicymaki 6y ago

Yes! The faceless mass is caused because the "community" has gotten way too large. If you want a better experience, you need to build your own community based on your interests and keep it from getting too large and unmanageable.

chrisco255 6y ago
Yeah but also not so small that it dies off from non-use. Tricky balance to keep there.
cjsawyer 6y ago
Maybe this is an unavoidable byproduct of having everybody on the web... I started using it around 2005, I can’t imagine how people who started with homepages and newsgroups must feel.
- mtrower 6y ago
  Ornery and irritable - not really that technology moved on, but mostly for what could have been but wasn't. Additionally, bemusement - watching people go crazy over Reddit and Slack, when all I can see is glitzy, more newbie-friendly, centralized incarnations of Usenet and IRC. Don't even get me started with Facebook (though, I hear FB isn't even popular with today's kids - rather, it's that thing old people use.)

lsiebert 6y ago

One of the reasons I like Metafilter is the community.

whereistimbo 6y ago

forums.darknedgy.net needs more people!

baud147258 6y ago

I'm part of a few forums, all which serve a niche. And on the smallest of them the community of people is real (though it's often in a us-vs-them way).

softsound 6y ago

I think forums still exist but are just different, look at Discord.