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That depends on two things: 1. If companies will extend their remote-friendly policies beyond the pandemic. 2. If the rising swell of unemployed Americans wil

That depends on two things: 1. If companies will extend their remote-friendly policies beyond the pandemic. 2. If the rising swell of unemployed Americans will pursue a career in tech, and enough of them are willing to relocate to San Francisco (as the trope goes). I don't have a good prediction for the first point (some companies will likely dig their heels in on remote work because "we tried it" even though "remote work" is way different than "working during a pandemic"), but we'll at least see some of the second.

koheripbal 6y ago
1. They won't. 2. Those who were made unemployed were not the same people renting expensive SF apartments.
- some_furry 6y ago
  2. People who are made unemployed by the pandemic who transition into a tech career become recruiter fodder, and will eventually join the candidate pool. That's what I'm talking about, not the sum of all unemployed people.
  - tmpz22 6y ago
    Maybe, but I think there is already a glut of bootcamp-style developers who represent the majority of career-changing opportunities doing front-end development or mobile development after a 3-12 month training. I don't there there are as many entry-level tech opportunities in the bay area as people think their is. The roles that are really hungry seem to always be senior or cross-discipline devops that requires many years across many types of domains.
  - bradlys 6y ago
    > 2. People who are made unemployed by the pandemic who transition into a tech career become recruiter fodder, and will eventually join the candidate pool. That's what I'm talking about, not the sum of all unemployed people. I really don't think the a significant portion of burger flippers have suddenly decided that a CS degree or pay for an expensive technical bootcamp is what they want to do. As far as I can see, the people losing their jobs are not in the educated class. A lot of them didn't go to college, did go to poorly rated schools, and are underachievers.
majormajor 6y ago
There's a fun potential unanticipated consequence if companies continue allowing remote work for "professional" sorta roles. Imagine a couple of lawyers working for a firm in Houston making $$$$ who can now keep that same job but live in San Diego and not deal with the same weather... especially, say, if their kids just moved away anyway. You could conceivably have desirable locations being a new sort of "bedroom community" that only the super-highly-paid can afford, regardless of where their employer is based.
- gnicholas 6y ago
  Perhaps for other roles, but much less so for lawyers. For one thing, legal practice is local and involves networking that happens locally. Additionally, if a lawyer moves to a new state, he might have to take the bar exam again in order to be licensed in that jurisdiction. This applies even if the type of law that the lawyer practices hasn’t changed. This seems a bit crazy, but I actually experienced this as a California lawyer (practicing federal corporate tax) who started spending time in another state where my girlfriend lived. Fortunately she got a job in CA before I had to take the bar in her state.

koheripbal 6y ago

1. They won't. 2. Those who were made unemployed were not the same people renting expensive SF apartments.

some_furry 6y ago
2. People who are made unemployed by the pandemic who transition into a tech career become recruiter fodder, and will eventually join the candidate pool. That's what I'm talking about, not the sum of all unemployed people.
- tmpz22 6y ago
  Maybe, but I think there is already a glut of bootcamp-style developers who represent the majority of career-changing opportunities doing front-end development or mobile development after a 3-12 month training. I don't there there are as many entry-level tech opportunities in the bay area as people think their is. The roles that are really hungry seem to always be senior or cross-discipline devops that requires many years across many types of domains.
- bradlys 6y ago
  > 2. People who are made unemployed by the pandemic who transition into a tech career become recruiter fodder, and will eventually join the candidate pool. That's what I'm talking about, not the sum of all unemployed people. I really don't think the a significant portion of burger flippers have suddenly decided that a CS degree or pay for an expensive technical bootcamp is what they want to do. As far as I can see, the people losing their jobs are not in the educated class. A lot of them didn't go to college, did go to poorly rated schools, and are underachievers.

majormajor 6y ago

There's a fun potential unanticipated consequence if companies continue allowing remote work for "professional" sorta roles. Imagine a couple of lawyers working for a firm in Houston making $$$$ who can now keep that same job but live in San Diego and not deal with the same weather... especially, say, if their kids just moved away anyway. You could conceivably have desirable locations being a new sort of "bedroom community" that only the super-highly-paid can afford, regardless of where their employer is based.

gnicholas 6y ago
Perhaps for other roles, but much less so for lawyers. For one thing, legal practice is local and involves networking that happens locally. Additionally, if a lawyer moves to a new state, he might have to take the bar exam again in order to be licensed in that jurisdiction. This applies even if the type of law that the lawyer practices hasn’t changed. This seems a bit crazy, but I actually experienced this as a California lawyer (practicing federal corporate tax) who started spending time in another state where my girlfriend lived. Fortunately she got a job in CA before I had to take the bar in her state.