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For people saying this to calculate the final price with shipping and tax, it's not (or at least not entirely). It is for this new sales conversion dark pattern

For people saying this to calculate the final price with shipping and tax, it's not (or at least not entirely). It is for this new sales conversion dark pattern where prices aren't listed until you add to cart. Ebay sellers are particularly bad offenders: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Open-Box-Certified-Samsung-Galaxy-13-3-4K-Ultra-HD-Touch-Screen-Chromeboo/203028862820?epid=21037915306&hash=item2f45769764:g:IM4AAOSwq4Nesuii https://www.ebay.com/itm/Open-Box-Certified-Samsung-Galaxy-1...

an_opabinia 6y ago
That clearly has a see details button that shows the price.
- soganess 6y ago
  Most dark patterns have a non-intuitive way of circumventing them (the small-font faded-color "no, thank you" button comes to mind). That is Ebay's. Other examples here: https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/83050/price-too-low-to-show https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/83050/price-too-low-t... Amazon example from a few years ago: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/ztyT6xTPaTr9TtP8LwlRJBE6RVe8RwgJxd8HwomRTxDzdfzMVojXZduT1CleO1SP8VTgH-MKVuVWaMvTwKoD0O1t2H3HuOidqYOtVFKQAGcKS33Vb4PaFCrYzA https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/ztyT6xTPaTr9TtP8LwlRJBE6RV...
nkozyra 6y ago
What am I missing on here? That item has the price listed without having to Add To Cart.
- Felk 6y ago
  The modal that pops up is not in the dom until you click the "See details" link, which has target="javascript:;". The "Add to cart" button is an actual link. I wouldn't be surprised if Google just doesn't want to run javascript to extract pricing information if it doesn't necessarily have to.
dheera 6y ago
I personally believe that anything that can be automated by software should be automated by software. If it takes programmatically clicking exactly the same A, B, C, D sequence to display what the user wants, that clicking should be done by the machine, not the human.
abiogenesis 6y ago
Google disagrees with you: > When The Wall Street Journal contacted Google in June, a spokesman at the internet giant, after a few days of digging, provided an update: The mystery shopper is a bot of its own creation. The purpose: making sure the all-in price for the product, including tax and shipping, matches the listing on its Google Shopping platform or in advertisements.
- leeoniya 6y ago
  this is what we've seen as well. it validates that whatever price, promo, shipping and taxes you've put into your feed is what ends up in the final checkout and there's no bait-and-switch going on between the feed and reality. it's rather annoying because it creates dozens of "abandoned" carts per day which we have to continually clear out (based on Google's known ip address ranges) so our reps can go through actual abandoned carts.
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kube-system 6y ago
This is more likely just a contractual MAP (Minimum Advertised Price) policy by the manufacturer, not a dark pattern that is of the retailer's choosing. https://www.thebalancesmb.com/what-is-minimum-advertised-price-2890196 https://www.thebalancesmb.com/what-is-minimum-advertised-pri...

an_opabinia 6y ago

That clearly has a see details button that shows the price.

soganess 6y ago
Most dark patterns have a non-intuitive way of circumventing them (the small-font faded-color "no, thank you" button comes to mind). That is Ebay's. Other examples here: https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/83050/price-too-low-to-show https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/83050/price-too-low-t... Amazon example from a few years ago: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/ztyT6xTPaTr9TtP8LwlRJBE6RVe8RwgJxd8HwomRTxDzdfzMVojXZduT1CleO1SP8VTgH-MKVuVWaMvTwKoD0O1t2H3HuOidqYOtVFKQAGcKS33Vb4PaFCrYzA https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/ztyT6xTPaTr9TtP8LwlRJBE6RV...

nkozyra 6y ago

What am I missing on here? That item has the price listed without having to Add To Cart.

Felk 6y ago
The modal that pops up is not in the dom until you click the "See details" link, which has target="javascript:;". The "Add to cart" button is an actual link. I wouldn't be surprised if Google just doesn't want to run javascript to extract pricing information if it doesn't necessarily have to.

dheera 6y ago

I personally believe that anything that can be automated by software should be automated by software. If it takes programmatically clicking exactly the same A, B, C, D sequence to display what the user wants, that clicking should be done by the machine, not the human.

abiogenesis 6y ago

Google disagrees with you: > When The Wall Street Journal contacted Google in June, a spokesman at the internet giant, after a few days of digging, provided an update: The mystery shopper is a bot of its own creation. The purpose: making sure the all-in price for the product, including tax and shipping, matches the listing on its Google Shopping platform or in advertisements.

leeoniya 6y ago
this is what we've seen as well. it validates that whatever price, promo, shipping and taxes you've put into your feed is what ends up in the final checkout and there's no bait-and-switch going on between the feed and reality. it's rather annoying because it creates dozens of "abandoned" carts per day which we have to continually clear out (based on Google's known ip address ranges) so our reps can go through actual abandoned carts.
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kube-system 6y ago

This is more likely just a contractual MAP (Minimum Advertised Price) policy by the manufacturer, not a dark pattern that is of the retailer's choosing. https://www.thebalancesmb.com/what-is-minimum-advertised-price-2890196 https://www.thebalancesmb.com/what-is-minimum-advertised-pri...