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New computing models are more restrictive and less focused on creation and more on consumption. That's fine for some people but this is hacker news. If there

New computing models are more restrictive and less focused on creation and more on consumption. That's fine for some people but this is hacker news. If there were a new computing model that supported my use case, fine, but there isn't. Playgrounds suck for adults. I've tried every Android editor and IDE and it's like going back 20 years. Our hardware is now powerful enough to support all computing models in whatever sandbox you want. There's no reason I have to give up my POSIX CLI. Personally I'd prefer Android native GUI software capable of interfacing with a Linux technology stack that can run programming languages, web servers, etc. This should be obvious and yet somehow it's not available. No market opportunity because the OS is locked down making all this impossible. Right now on Android I'm using Termux with an proot Ubuntu userland and running code-server which allows me to run VS Code as a PWA on Android. This is, by far, the best configuration I've found. But soon Google will make even this hack on hack impossible.

mav3rick 6y ago
99% of users don't care for this CLI on tablets. It's also a huge security hole.
pjmlp 6y ago
> I've tried every Android editor and IDE and it's like going back 20 years. Yet you are trying to go back 50 years instead. > No market opportunity because the OS is locked down making all this impossible. No it isn't, you just have to free yourself from POSIX chains and embrace Android APIs and architecture models.
- wvenable 6y ago
  > Yet you are trying to go back 50 years instead. I think some Linux desktop users might have issue with that statement. > No it isn't, you just have to free yourself from POSIX chains and embrace Android APIs and architecture models. Each app in Android runs completely isolated from every other app (and more so every day). You can embrace Android but you have to throw out literally the last 50 years of technology. And plus, Android itself is kind of awful. It's the most hacked together OS that's been created in the last few decades. New does not mean better. Are you really expecting developers to basically recreate the last 50 years of software development tools? What makes you think that's viable? It's not surprising that most pure Android tools suck because they can't leverage everything that has been done and is currently being done on the desktop, servers, etc. Everything has to be recreated almost from scratch or shoe-horned in and it's awful.

mav3rick 6y ago

99% of users don't care for this CLI on tablets. It's also a huge security hole.

pjmlp 6y ago

> I've tried every Android editor and IDE and it's like going back 20 years. Yet you are trying to go back 50 years instead. > No market opportunity because the OS is locked down making all this impossible. No it isn't, you just have to free yourself from POSIX chains and embrace Android APIs and architecture models.

wvenable 6y ago
> Yet you are trying to go back 50 years instead. I think some Linux desktop users might have issue with that statement. > No it isn't, you just have to free yourself from POSIX chains and embrace Android APIs and architecture models. Each app in Android runs completely isolated from every other app (and more so every day). You can embrace Android but you have to throw out literally the last 50 years of technology. And plus, Android itself is kind of awful. It's the most hacked together OS that's been created in the last few decades. New does not mean better. Are you really expecting developers to basically recreate the last 50 years of software development tools? What makes you think that's viable? It's not surprising that most pure Android tools suck because they can't leverage everything that has been done and is currently being done on the desktop, servers, etc. Everything has to be recreated almost from scratch or shoe-horned in and it's awful.