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That scares me. If that entrapment-at-scale is legal, it could be deployed to throw huge numbers of people in jail for buying drugs or supporting terrorism.

bzb3 6y ago
If I emailed you and offered you to share pictures of naked 13 year olds, would you accept? If I texted you and told you I'm 13 years old, would you start hitting on me?
- ajzinsbwbs 6y ago
  No I wouldn’t, but legal precedents that get set in these cases will carry over to prosecutions of other crimes.
- pphysch 6y ago
  The gap between ideation and action is significant, and approaches like this are getting firmly into "prosecuting thought crime" territory.
- xondono 6y ago
  If I hit reply to tell you to go to hell, did I just participate in the exchange of pictures of minors? (since your pictures will be quoted in my email)
ipnon 6y ago
Note that the AI is used to automate the work of the law enforcement agents, not the work of the judges and juries. The AI collects evidence that prosecutors use to build cases against defendants. The defendants still have the right to public trial in a court of law in front of a human judge and human jury. edit: It seems there is a misunderstanding of what the AI does. It simulates human traffickers in text or video chat in order to find people who try to exchange money with them, and it simulates children in text and video chat in order to find people who try to groom them. It does not simulate child sexual abuse material or proliferate child sexual abuse material.
- ajzinsbwbs 6y ago
  Here are some examples of the types of prosecutions I’m worried about. High schooler sold drugs to undercover cop who pretended to be his girlfriend: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/457/what-i-did-for-love/act-two https://www.thisamericanlife.org/457/what-i-did-for-love/act... Legal study on failures of the entrapment defense in post-9/11 terrorism cases: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/law-and-social-inquiry/article/accounting-for-the-almost-complete-failure-of-the-entrapment-defense-in-post911-us-terrorism-cases/1B69DE977ACEE0549B35AECCAE32F2F6# https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/law-and-social-inqui... Most people will make a plea deal when faced with prosecution, so there’s never an adversarial process in front of a judge and jury.

bzb3 6y ago

If I emailed you and offered you to share pictures of naked 13 year olds, would you accept? If I texted you and told you I'm 13 years old, would you start hitting on me?

ajzinsbwbs 6y ago
No I wouldn’t, but legal precedents that get set in these cases will carry over to prosecutions of other crimes.
pphysch 6y ago
The gap between ideation and action is significant, and approaches like this are getting firmly into "prosecuting thought crime" territory.
xondono 6y ago
If I hit reply to tell you to go to hell, did I just participate in the exchange of pictures of minors? (since your pictures will be quoted in my email)

ipnon 6y ago

Note that the AI is used to automate the work of the law enforcement agents, not the work of the judges and juries. The AI collects evidence that prosecutors use to build cases against defendants. The defendants still have the right to public trial in a court of law in front of a human judge and human jury. edit: It seems there is a misunderstanding of what the AI does. It simulates human traffickers in text or video chat in order to find people who try to exchange money with them, and it simulates children in text and video chat in order to find people who try to groom them. It does not simulate child sexual abuse material or proliferate child sexual abuse material.

ajzinsbwbs 6y ago
Here are some examples of the types of prosecutions I’m worried about. High schooler sold drugs to undercover cop who pretended to be his girlfriend: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/457/what-i-did-for-love/act-two https://www.thisamericanlife.org/457/what-i-did-for-love/act... Legal study on failures of the entrapment defense in post-9/11 terrorism cases: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/law-and-social-inquiry/article/accounting-for-the-almost-complete-failure-of-the-entrapment-defense-in-post911-us-terrorism-cases/1B69DE977ACEE0549B35AECCAE32F2F6# https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/law-and-social-inqui... Most people will make a plea deal when faced with prosecution, so there’s never an adversarial process in front of a judge and jury.