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Completely unfair summary of a complex article. You are misled if you think that's what the article is about.

gumbo 6y ago
What is misleading. I just read the article again and these 3 messages captures the gist of the conversation quite well.
- pmoriarty 6y ago
  "What is misleading" Tons of stuff. First, the article starts with a misleading report on a Facebook drone. There's nothing in the above summary about that. Second, much of the article is about the eagerness of journalists to cover Facebook. Again, the above summary says absolutely nothing about that. Third, the article talks about Facebook cultivating relationships with journalists or writing articles itself. Surprise, surprise, the above summary says nothing about that either. Then there's a large part of the article on Facebook security measures to track down leaks. Once again, the summary doesn't even hint at that. Yet another example is discussion of Facebook's reactive strategy, in which Facebook responds to bad press but does not proactively do anything to address issues before they come to light in the media. And, once again, the summary says nothing about that. Saying that Zuckerberg is contemptuous of Facebook's users and that even he thinks they shouldn't trust him is actually not a summary of the article at all. It might be related, but touches on NONE of the concrete points the article makes.
user00012-ab 6y ago
unfortunately/fortunately that's what I'm taking away from this article, because the main site won't let me scroll.
nr2x 6y ago
The full quote is actually worse: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask. Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks
blinding-streak 6y ago
Disagree. It opens with Zuckerberg blatantly lying about the success of the Aquila drone, and ends with "What Facebook has become is ... a massive block to journalism’s core mission of democratic accountability." It's pretty obvious that FB gets its marching orders and obfuscation culture from the top. And this was an interesting quote: "Facebook employs the only comms people who have ever yelled at me."
- pmoriarty 6y ago
  Whether orders for Facebook's behavior comes from the top is speculation about the motivation for things the article discusses, not an actual summary of the article.

What is misleading. I just read the article again and these 3 messages captures the gist of the conversation quite well.

pmoriarty 6y ago
"What is misleading" Tons of stuff. First, the article starts with a misleading report on a Facebook drone. There's nothing in the above summary about that. Second, much of the article is about the eagerness of journalists to cover Facebook. Again, the above summary says absolutely nothing about that. Third, the article talks about Facebook cultivating relationships with journalists or writing articles itself. Surprise, surprise, the above summary says nothing about that either. Then there's a large part of the article on Facebook security measures to track down leaks. Once again, the summary doesn't even hint at that. Yet another example is discussion of Facebook's reactive strategy, in which Facebook responds to bad press but does not proactively do anything to address issues before they come to light in the media. And, once again, the summary says nothing about that. Saying that Zuckerberg is contemptuous of Facebook's users and that even he thinks they shouldn't trust him is actually not a summary of the article at all. It might be related, but touches on NONE of the concrete points the article makes.

user00012-ab 6y ago

unfortunately/fortunately that's what I'm taking away from this article, because the main site won't let me scroll.

nr2x 6y ago

The full quote is actually worse: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask. Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks

blinding-streak 6y ago

Disagree. It opens with Zuckerberg blatantly lying about the success of the Aquila drone, and ends with "What Facebook has become is ... a massive block to journalism’s core mission of democratic accountability." It's pretty obvious that FB gets its marching orders and obfuscation culture from the top. And this was an interesting quote: "Facebook employs the only comms people who have ever yelled at me."

pmoriarty 6y ago
Whether orders for Facebook's behavior comes from the top is speculation about the motivation for things the article discusses, not an actual summary of the article.