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Not brainwashed, but socialized. In East Asian countries and China especially, collectivism and Confucianism are pervasive, with deep cultural roots. The CCP is

Not brainwashed, but socialized. In East Asian countries and China especially, collectivism and Confucianism are pervasive, with deep cultural roots. The CCP is, of course, supporting and reinforcing those ideals, but it's just as much simply taking advantage of the pre-existing culture. Just like how the US is strongly culturally capitalist and individualistic -- as we value bootstraps capitalism and the "American Dream", the people of mainland China value supporting each other and the state, even when it's not explicitly in their best interests.

baybal2 6y ago
> In East Asian countries and China especially, collectivism and Confucianism are pervasive, with deep cultural roots. In East Asian countries and China especially, nobody gives a flying .... about collectivism and Confucianism, and cultural roots. It's by far the most egoistic, conflict driven, cut throat society I've ever been.
- throw51319 6y ago
  So you are basically saying that the cohesion of China is because they are doing better economically these past few decades... and thus people's egos are at an all-time high. Thus they support the regime.
  - baybal2 6y ago
    > Thus they support the regime. Ahem... most Chinese can't get more curses for it. Even unranked CPC members, and civil servants quietly hate them. One needs to read a lot of People's Daily to drink this koolaid The few who do almost all are the poor, underachieving, and angry "little pink" flag waving youth, or are the actual accessories to the system.
  - starfallg 6y ago
    Which is not far off the mark. In China there is a pervasive feeling that the reason it is behind in development is due to the Imperialism in the 1800s and the domination of Western powers over China. This developed into some sort of inferiority complex. With economic development they claim that China is no longer the 'sick man of Asia', the shaking off of which imbues them some sort of pride. That pride is the source of support for the CCP, not any inherent properties of the system.

baybal2 6y ago

> In East Asian countries and China especially, collectivism and Confucianism are pervasive, with deep cultural roots. In East Asian countries and China especially, nobody gives a flying .... about collectivism and Confucianism, and cultural roots. It's by far the most egoistic, conflict driven, cut throat society I've ever been.

throw51319 6y ago
So you are basically saying that the cohesion of China is because they are doing better economically these past few decades... and thus people's egos are at an all-time high. Thus they support the regime.
- baybal2 6y ago
  > Thus they support the regime. Ahem... most Chinese can't get more curses for it. Even unranked CPC members, and civil servants quietly hate them. One needs to read a lot of People's Daily to drink this koolaid The few who do almost all are the poor, underachieving, and angry "little pink" flag waving youth, or are the actual accessories to the system.
- starfallg 6y ago
  Which is not far off the mark. In China there is a pervasive feeling that the reason it is behind in development is due to the Imperialism in the 1800s and the domination of Western powers over China. This developed into some sort of inferiority complex. With economic development they claim that China is no longer the 'sick man of Asia', the shaking off of which imbues them some sort of pride. That pride is the source of support for the CCP, not any inherent properties of the system.