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This has and will be debated forever. Given the choice though, I think its much clearer that letting in wealthy educated people is a net benefit.

pm90 6y ago
Your belief does not make it a reality. Studies have shown that all kinds of immigration greatly benefits host countries, and especially aging Western ones with declining populations.
- iguy 6y ago
  This really isn't a one-dimensional question with an easy "studies have shown" answer. For a start, it would require a definition for what "benefits host countries" means -- benefits tax receipts? Proportion willing to volunteer for the army? Benefits eployers of low/high-wage labor? Number of companies founded? Strength of the literary tradition? That said, the most obvious parallel here is the indians expelled from Uganda [1], who were essentially the merchant class of that country. And I believe have done very well in England. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Asians_from_Ugand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Asians_from_Ugand
- kyboren 6y ago
  I don't think that's exactly what eggsnbacon1 was saying. It may be true that all kinds of immigration greatly benefit host countries in the long term, but this is more debatable than that allowing wealthy, liberal, educated immigrants is a net benefit to host countries. We can argue about the long-term benefits of open borders. I don't believe eggsnbacon1 was stating a position there--more like pointing out that there are some short-term costs that generate popular pushback. But ushering in the cream of the crop is obviously beneficial; it's a no-brainer.
- poutrathor 6y ago
  It's country dependant (and study dependant) : https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2020/01/23/un-rapport-parlementaire-souligne-l-effet-neutre-de-l-immigration-sur-l-economie_6026976_3224.html https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2020/01/23/un-rapport... Most studies does not account for what people dislike in immigration : fracturing social contract and communities shattering. Frictions in the salad bowl are poorly translated to economic figures but folks live it everyday. So look carefully at what each study says and its perimeter. One should curb down its sureness of that matter.

pm90 6y ago

Your belief does not make it a reality. Studies have shown that all kinds of immigration greatly benefits host countries, and especially aging Western ones with declining populations.

iguy 6y ago
This really isn't a one-dimensional question with an easy "studies have shown" answer. For a start, it would require a definition for what "benefits host countries" means -- benefits tax receipts? Proportion willing to volunteer for the army? Benefits eployers of low/high-wage labor? Number of companies founded? Strength of the literary tradition? That said, the most obvious parallel here is the indians expelled from Uganda [1], who were essentially the merchant class of that country. And I believe have done very well in England. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Asians_from_Ugand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Asians_from_Ugand
kyboren 6y ago
I don't think that's exactly what eggsnbacon1 was saying. It may be true that all kinds of immigration greatly benefit host countries in the long term, but this is more debatable than that allowing wealthy, liberal, educated immigrants is a net benefit to host countries. We can argue about the long-term benefits of open borders. I don't believe eggsnbacon1 was stating a position there--more like pointing out that there are some short-term costs that generate popular pushback. But ushering in the cream of the crop is obviously beneficial; it's a no-brainer.
poutrathor 6y ago
It's country dependant (and study dependant) : https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2020/01/23/un-rapport-parlementaire-souligne-l-effet-neutre-de-l-immigration-sur-l-economie_6026976_3224.html https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2020/01/23/un-rapport... Most studies does not account for what people dislike in immigration : fracturing social contract and communities shattering. Frictions in the salad bowl are poorly translated to economic figures but folks live it everyday. So look carefully at what each study says and its perimeter. One should curb down its sureness of that matter.