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how's this for a wild idea: humanity changes the objectives it prioritises to value long term environmental sustainability & to focus on benefits to society --
by shoo 6y ago
how's this for a wild idea: humanity changes the objectives it prioritises to value long term environmental sustainability & to focus on benefits to society -- instead of prioritising things than benefit individuals & making decisions based primarily on economic growth or individual profit motive.
(not only is that incompatible with VC funding, it's incompatible with capitalism & western style individualism, so arguably operating in such a fashion is unreachable from our current society, even if being able to operate in such a fashion would be superior from the perspective of the whole species)
- allenleein 6y agoLove it
- easytiger 6y agoThose things are also entirely subjective,as much as people like to claim scientific imperatives for socialist constructs the best tool towards those goals generally is regulated markets. Like we have now
- adamc 6y agoThere is a subjective element, but they are not ENTIRELY subjective. It's pretty clear that less pollution would make for a more sustainable environment... it's just more expensive. It's pretty clear that it would be safer (prudent) to cut back on carbon emissions... it just has negative economic effects.
- blamestross 6y agoIt's all about desired rate of return. Demanding short forces companies to leverage externalities like causing pollution to make money. Long term returns motivates you not to destroy the planet to achieve the goal. Really Long term returns hinge on the fact that converting the asteroid belt O'Neill cylinders is the future of mankind and destroying the planet to get there is fine as long as you get enough people off this rock first.
- egypturnash 6y agobrb, making a dozen sock puppet accounts so I can give this all the upvotes it deserves :)
- DoingIsLearning 6y agoYou mind find Kate Raworth's proposal interesting - 'doughnut economics': https://www.kateraworth.com/doughnut/ https://www.kateraworth.com/doughnut/ Amsterdam's cityhall (NL) is piloting an implementation, so perhaps there is hope that it can go beyond a theoretical framework proposal.