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The way US counts the deaths from this is "unique" in that if someone had COVID when they died, but they did not die _from_ COVID, they're still count
by JohnBooty 6y ago
The way US counts the deaths from this is "unique"
in that if someone had COVID when they died, but
they did not die _from_ COVID, they're still counted
as a COVID death
That's how diseases work.
In a literal sense the only actual cause of death ever is a cessation of cardiovascular function.
You don't die "from" AIDS. You die from pnuemonia, malnutrition, opportunistic infections that attack your weakened immune system, etc.
You don't even die directly "from" cancer. The tumors on your pancreas don't directly kill you in the sense that stepping on a landmine directly kills you.
That's why countries like Russia with much less formidable
healthcare systems have "lower" fatality ratios. They're
counting those who died _because of_ COVID, not _with_ it.
That's not realistic at all.
Your odds of dying from disease during any given month are pretty low. If you get COVID-19 and die, the overwhelming probability is that.... yes, it was COVID-19.
While not a perfect method of accounting it is assuredly more accurate than assuming the opposite, which is what countries like Russia are apparently doing.
If a person has cancer (or hepatitis, or psoriasis, or dementia, or whatever) for two years, and then they contract COVID-19 and die the next week, it certainly may have been the cancer that did them in, but it was almost certainly the COVID-19 that put them over the edge. In reality, a number of factors did them in, but if you had to pick one it would be their acute bout with COVID-19 that proved the deciding factor.
- m0zg 6y ago> the overwhelming probability is that.... yes, it was COVID-19 Even if you had stage 4 cancer and would die in a week anyway? Then there's the issue of excess deaths caused by _not going to the doctor_ because you can't do "elective" procedures like stents and such, or just because you're afraid of getting infected. You can die of cardiovascular (or other) disease this way, and if you had e.g. asymptomatic covid (like most people who have it) you'd be counted as a COVID death then.
- JohnBooty 6y agoEven if you had stage 4 cancer and would die in a week anyway? Why yes, then it might be more accurate to say that your stage 4 cancer killed you. But now, consider: most people are not in the absolutely final, terminal phase of a deadly illness. To what percentage of dead COVID-19 sufferers would a situation like that possibly apply? A very tiny one, surely. That is why tallying COVID-19 deaths in this manner is acceptable and accurate. It perhaps introduces a small amount of error, but is superior to Russia's method (which sounds like outright denial of reality) and the error % introduced is in any event, is at least an order of magnitude (if not two) smaller than that posed by the number of undiagnosed COVID-19 cases.