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Remnants of Hinduism. These incidents do happen, but they are rare and almost non-existent compared to Hinduism. Churches openly hold discussions on how all hum

Remnants of Hinduism. These incidents do happen, but they are rare and almost non-existent compared to Hinduism. Churches openly hold discussions on how all humans are equal.Also Jesus was born in a poor family, which would have made him a lower caste hindu if he was born in India If caste is beyond religion in India, then why did Ambedkar leave Hinduism and urge all of his followers to do so. Can you tell me one other religion which has the concept of caste in religious scriptures?

sbmthakur 6y ago
> Can you tell me one other religion which has the concept of caste in religious scriptures? They may not be having caste-based discrimination but they do have other forms of discrimination. That's why you have terms like heathens, heretics and kafirs. While I agree that Hindus have more of this caste-based discrimination, a simple search shows that it's not exactly uncommon in other religions in India. https://scroll.in/article/876000/is-the-caste-system-deep-rooted-among-christians-in-india-a-kerala-bishop-stirs-up-a-hornets-nest https://scroll.in/article/876000/is-the-caste-system-deep-ro... https://theprint.in/opinion/indias-muslim-community-under-a-churn-85-backward-pasmandas-up-against-15-ashrafs/234599/ https://theprint.in/opinion/indias-muslim-community-under-a-... https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/2019/sep/01/caste-system-exists-among-muslims-though-not-overtly-2027243.html https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/2019/sep/01/c...
- randomguy2379 6y ago
  Funny you mention heathens, heretics and kafirs. All of these are people who are non-believers in their corresponding religions. Dalits are actually believers in Hinduism. No other religion in the world discriminates against the very people who chose to adopt it, except Hinduism. I'll reiterate, it's very rare in other religions and uncommon. Mostly remnants of Hinduism. But ask an average muslim or a christian his caste and he will say that he doesn't have one.
  - cscurmudgeon 6y ago
    > But ask an average muslim or a christian his caste and he will say that he doesn't have one. Aren't there Shia/Sunni divisions and even centuries long wars? Not exactly castes, but probably worse. https://www.newstatesman.com/world/middle-east/2017/08/sunni-vs-shia-roots-islam-s-civil-war https://www.newstatesman.com/world/middle-east/2017/08/sunni... Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_among_South_Asian_Muslims https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_among_South_Asian...
    - drumhead 6y ago
      It’s the same a catholic and Protestant.
  - sbmthakur 6y ago
    Those terms do mean non-believer but they are also applied to followers with slightly different beliefs. Consider protestants, shias, ahmadiyas etc. > But ask an average muslim or a christian his caste and he will say that he doesn't have one. Almost 80% population of India is Hindu. It's obvious that relatively less number of muslims and even less number of christians are gonna talk about caste.
eklavya 6y ago
> Churches openly hold discussions on how all humans are equal. That's not exclusive to Christianity. Universal equality is a basic tenet of Hinduism (including non violence towards all living things not just humans). I will not get into a debate of what is "Hinduism". I also don't disagree that some people do face a lot of discrimination. Sadly, the old generation needs to die off for this stuff to be behind us.

sbmthakur 6y ago

> Can you tell me one other religion which has the concept of caste in religious scriptures? They may not be having caste-based discrimination but they do have other forms of discrimination. That's why you have terms like heathens, heretics and kafirs. While I agree that Hindus have more of this caste-based discrimination, a simple search shows that it's not exactly uncommon in other religions in India. https://scroll.in/article/876000/is-the-caste-system-deep-rooted-among-christians-in-india-a-kerala-bishop-stirs-up-a-hornets-nest https://scroll.in/article/876000/is-the-caste-system-deep-ro... https://theprint.in/opinion/indias-muslim-community-under-a-churn-85-backward-pasmandas-up-against-15-ashrafs/234599/ https://theprint.in/opinion/indias-muslim-community-under-a-... https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/2019/sep/01/caste-system-exists-among-muslims-though-not-overtly-2027243.html https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/2019/sep/01/c...

randomguy2379 6y ago
Funny you mention heathens, heretics and kafirs. All of these are people who are non-believers in their corresponding religions. Dalits are actually believers in Hinduism. No other religion in the world discriminates against the very people who chose to adopt it, except Hinduism. I'll reiterate, it's very rare in other religions and uncommon. Mostly remnants of Hinduism. But ask an average muslim or a christian his caste and he will say that he doesn't have one.
- cscurmudgeon 6y ago
  > But ask an average muslim or a christian his caste and he will say that he doesn't have one. Aren't there Shia/Sunni divisions and even centuries long wars? Not exactly castes, but probably worse. https://www.newstatesman.com/world/middle-east/2017/08/sunni-vs-shia-roots-islam-s-civil-war https://www.newstatesman.com/world/middle-east/2017/08/sunni... Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_among_South_Asian_Muslims https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_among_South_Asian...
  - drumhead 6y ago
    It’s the same a catholic and Protestant.
- sbmthakur 6y ago
  Those terms do mean non-believer but they are also applied to followers with slightly different beliefs. Consider protestants, shias, ahmadiyas etc. > But ask an average muslim or a christian his caste and he will say that he doesn't have one. Almost 80% population of India is Hindu. It's obvious that relatively less number of muslims and even less number of christians are gonna talk about caste.

eklavya 6y ago

> Churches openly hold discussions on how all humans are equal. That's not exclusive to Christianity. Universal equality is a basic tenet of Hinduism (including non violence towards all living things not just humans). I will not get into a debate of what is "Hinduism". I also don't disagree that some people do face a lot of discrimination. Sadly, the old generation needs to die off for this stuff to be behind us.