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This is like someone saying they've used a DSLR professionally for a decade and couldn't say what benefits they get out of it over a point and shoot because the

This is like someone saying they've used a DSLR professionally for a decade and couldn't say what benefits they get out of it over a point and shoot because they've never done anything other than leave it in automatic mode. You owe it to yourself to explore and embrace the power of your tools as a professional. Vi(m) in particular requires a deliberate effort from the user to learn its features, because of how it stays out of the way by design. It's not trying to be discoverable at the expense of experienced users. Decades ago I tutored someone taking a C++ course who claimed to know vi and insisted on using it for the sessions. They knew how to use vi enough to be a notepad replacement, it was brutal to watch how much time they wasted neglecting to use any of vi's features at their fingertips. If you're navigating with a mouse or arrow keys, and treating vi as no more capable than notepad, you're not really using vi.

ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
I’m pretty good at using vim, There’s really nothing I don’t know, and I’ve watched tons of courses and read tons of tutorials. I got my own vimrc like plenty of people. But People still use macvim, and hit Apple S, and Use the mouse, I’m hardly the only one. See Yehudas “everyone who tried to teach me to use vim was wrong” When I was younger I cared more about it, but it’s all just yak shaving. What there isn’t are obvious benefits to keeping your fingers in the home row, just vastly overhyped anecdotes. By the way expert photographers will tell you that it’s not about the tools and that today’s phones are good enough. That’s one of the things that are annoying, I’m the dumb one for putting a dissenting opinion, but no one is willing to explain why using the mouse is worse, and definitely not in a way that satisfies me
- aspaceman 6y ago
  Hey just wanna let you know that I'm a fellow Vim user that uses the mouse for practically everything. I like using Vim for editing, but my brain still likes to do the "context switch" where I dig into menus and such.
  - ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
    That’s good to hear. Everyone’s pretending like any criticism of vim is obviously coming from incompetence.

ulisesrmzroche 6y ago

I’m pretty good at using vim, There’s really nothing I don’t know, and I’ve watched tons of courses and read tons of tutorials. I got my own vimrc like plenty of people. But People still use macvim, and hit Apple S, and Use the mouse, I’m hardly the only one. See Yehudas “everyone who tried to teach me to use vim was wrong” When I was younger I cared more about it, but it’s all just yak shaving. What there isn’t are obvious benefits to keeping your fingers in the home row, just vastly overhyped anecdotes. By the way expert photographers will tell you that it’s not about the tools and that today’s phones are good enough. That’s one of the things that are annoying, I’m the dumb one for putting a dissenting opinion, but no one is willing to explain why using the mouse is worse, and definitely not in a way that satisfies me

aspaceman 6y ago
Hey just wanna let you know that I'm a fellow Vim user that uses the mouse for practically everything. I like using Vim for editing, but my brain still likes to do the "context switch" where I dig into menus and such.
- ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
  That’s good to hear. Everyone’s pretending like any criticism of vim is obviously coming from incompetence.