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Ever year or so I look at the nice sugar that things like VScode or other IDEs have and think "it has vim mode, those nice things would be good to have" - autoc

Ever year or so I look at the nice sugar that things like VScode or other IDEs have and think "it has vim mode, those nice things would be good to have" - autocomplete, things like that. So I try the IDE and I get so tired of _in the way_ it gets that I just go back to vanilla Vim. Then I think "maybe I'll try these IDE like plugins for Vim" and get so frustrated by the Vim plugin system that its back to vanilla Vim pretty quickly.

axiom92 6y ago
I was wondering what language do you code in? I am a proficient Vim user but the more I use VScode for writing Python code, the harder it gets for me to justify using Vim for serious development.
- colordrops 6y ago
  If you use the right plugins + lsp, there's nothing you can do in vscode that you can't do in vim. Just requires a lot more upfront work, but you can check the config into a git repo.
  - reidrac 6y ago
    The problem is finding the right plugins, but it doesn't require that much time (at least in Linux/Mac; Windows may be a different experience). I use "IDE features" when writing Scala: vim-plug first, then vim-lsc + metals. The configuration of lsc is trivial (as in you can copy an example of less than 10 lines). After using this for a while, I replicated the same experience in Python with python-language-server (I install it with pip --user), and it was matter of 5 minutes to setup. Before this I was using syntastic + ctags, and that required much more work. May be is more work than getting the same functionality in VSCode, but it doesn't look a lot of work to me.
- VectorLock 6y ago
  Python mostly. VScode just seems to get in the way with a lot of things.
nepeckman 6y ago
What I want so badly is real vim with an easy and expansive plugin system. I get by okay with neovim + Plug, but there's still more friction than I'd like. Bought the Oni2 early access because it looks promising, but its not quite there yet.
- VectorLock 6y ago
  I'm deeply turned off by Oni2's pre-release increasing price model.

axiom92 6y ago

I was wondering what language do you code in? I am a proficient Vim user but the more I use VScode for writing Python code, the harder it gets for me to justify using Vim for serious development.

colordrops 6y ago
If you use the right plugins + lsp, there's nothing you can do in vscode that you can't do in vim. Just requires a lot more upfront work, but you can check the config into a git repo.
- reidrac 6y ago
  The problem is finding the right plugins, but it doesn't require that much time (at least in Linux/Mac; Windows may be a different experience). I use "IDE features" when writing Scala: vim-plug first, then vim-lsc + metals. The configuration of lsc is trivial (as in you can copy an example of less than 10 lines). After using this for a while, I replicated the same experience in Python with python-language-server (I install it with pip --user), and it was matter of 5 minutes to setup. Before this I was using syntastic + ctags, and that required much more work. May be is more work than getting the same functionality in VSCode, but it doesn't look a lot of work to me.
VectorLock 6y ago
Python mostly. VScode just seems to get in the way with a lot of things.

nepeckman 6y ago

What I want so badly is real vim with an easy and expansive plugin system. I get by okay with neovim + Plug, but there's still more friction than I'd like. Bought the Oni2 early access because it looks promising, but its not quite there yet.

VectorLock 6y ago
I'm deeply turned off by Oni2's pre-release increasing price model.