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Better censorship is what you are after? A website to censor things along the lines of how you think? A website that will protect you from racists? I heard

by wolco 6y ago

Better censorship is what you are after? A website to censor things along the lines of how you think? A website that will protect you from racists? I heard reddit is trying really hard these days to be the censorship hot spot perhaps take a look. The original point was Chinese are not a race they are a nationality. You both are wrong. Chinese are not a race. Chinese are not a nationality. The Han Chinese are a nationality. China is made up of many nationalities. The important story now is the government of China is forcing birth control on a minority population called the Uighurs. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-china-53220713 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia... Save your outrage for something meanful. Real minority populations are being oppressed and your worried about your fellow Americans insulting them more by blocking ip ranges that China owns that military style hacking is coming from? If that's the case I would suggest you care more about trying to make yourself look a certain way (by putting other Americans in their place) than helping minority populations in great need. The next generation is watching, they will demand real action vs virtual signaling.

komali2 6y ago
> Better censorship is what you are after? A website to censor things along the lines of how you think? A website that will protect you from racists? Deplatforming racists isn't censorship. > Save your outrage for something meanful. Big words coming from someone that didn't mention that Black Lives Matter even once in their comment, and also didn't do anything to bring more attention to North Korean concentration camps, and hasn't even provided a donation link to an African farming initiative. See where I'm going with this? > Real minority populations are being oppressed Like ethnically Chinese people in the USA, or really just Asian people in American in general that get lumped under a random Chinese umbrella, for example? > they will demand real action vs virtual signaling. What's your point? What is anybody on this website doing besides "virtue signalling?" We're talking. That involves our virtues being put on display. Despite what conservative detractors might think, saying "you're virtue signalling" doesn't automatically win a debate any more than calling someone an SJW does. Yup, I have virtues, yup, I'm telling you what they are. Yup, I like social justice. You don't?
- wolco 6y ago
  "Deplatforming racists isn't censorship" Isn't deplatforming racist because it creates a segregated society. Do you really want to separate society based on race? Soon we'll have schools for racist only. People will complain they when they get higher marks. You think you like the idea of social justice? What you are doing is social judgement. Bullying.. using your power over someone less powerful to make yourself feel better. Many causes need attention. Ignoring them all and pretending to care when people are around doesn't help anyone. The next generation is going to call you fake.
  - komali2 6y ago
    > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23682619 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23682619 Unsurprising. "Free speech activists" inevitably show off their actual value system. > Isn't deplatforming racist because it creates a segregated society. Racism is a choice, race isn't. Racists segregate themselves from society by believing that some humans are subhuman. Can't exactly share a well with someone that believes you're an animal, can you? Certainly can't have them in a jury. > Do you really want to separate society based on race? Transparent strawman argument lobbed at me most times I engage an "all lives matter" type. Black lives matter = white lives don't matter, right? > People will complain they when they get higher marks. Why would racists get higher marks? As racists they disproportionately fail to correct for cognitive biases - they are therefore either stupid or have a mental disorder. > You think you like the idea of social justice? What you are doing is social judgement. The SJW bit was fairly obvious bait that you bit straight onto. Something wrong with shaming racists? Bullying the bully? And today I learned, asking a bully to leave, is apparently bullying. > Many causes need attention. Again, you fail to address why you are spending time commenting on this instead of solving world hunger. Why are you spending time virtue signalling at me? Don't you care about starving children? > The next generation is going to call you fake. No, because bigots are losing the culture war.
    - wolco 6y ago
      Racism is a choice, race isn't. Is it a choice? Is it a choice when someone joins a gang when they are born into poverty? Everyone is a product of their environment.

by wolco 6y ago

komali2 6y ago

> Better censorship is what you are after? A website to censor things along the lines of how you think? A website that will protect you from racists? Deplatforming racists isn't censorship. > Save your outrage for something meanful. Big words coming from someone that didn't mention that Black Lives Matter even once in their comment, and also didn't do anything to bring more attention to North Korean concentration camps, and hasn't even provided a donation link to an African farming initiative. See where I'm going with this? > Real minority populations are being oppressed Like ethnically Chinese people in the USA, or really just Asian people in American in general that get lumped under a random Chinese umbrella, for example? > they will demand real action vs virtual signaling. What's your point? What is anybody on this website doing besides "virtue signalling?" We're talking. That involves our virtues being put on display. Despite what conservative detractors might think, saying "you're virtue signalling" doesn't automatically win a debate any more than calling someone an SJW does. Yup, I have virtues, yup, I'm telling you what they are. Yup, I like social justice. You don't?

wolco 6y ago
"Deplatforming racists isn't censorship" Isn't deplatforming racist because it creates a segregated society. Do you really want to separate society based on race? Soon we'll have schools for racist only. People will complain they when they get higher marks. You think you like the idea of social justice? What you are doing is social judgement. Bullying.. using your power over someone less powerful to make yourself feel better. Many causes need attention. Ignoring them all and pretending to care when people are around doesn't help anyone. The next generation is going to call you fake.
- komali2 6y ago
  > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23682619 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23682619 Unsurprising. "Free speech activists" inevitably show off their actual value system. > Isn't deplatforming racist because it creates a segregated society. Racism is a choice, race isn't. Racists segregate themselves from society by believing that some humans are subhuman. Can't exactly share a well with someone that believes you're an animal, can you? Certainly can't have them in a jury. > Do you really want to separate society based on race? Transparent strawman argument lobbed at me most times I engage an "all lives matter" type. Black lives matter = white lives don't matter, right? > People will complain they when they get higher marks. Why would racists get higher marks? As racists they disproportionately fail to correct for cognitive biases - they are therefore either stupid or have a mental disorder. > You think you like the idea of social justice? What you are doing is social judgement. The SJW bit was fairly obvious bait that you bit straight onto. Something wrong with shaming racists? Bullying the bully? And today I learned, asking a bully to leave, is apparently bullying. > Many causes need attention. Again, you fail to address why you are spending time commenting on this instead of solving world hunger. Why are you spending time virtue signalling at me? Don't you care about starving children? > The next generation is going to call you fake. No, because bigots are losing the culture war.
  - wolco 6y ago
    Racism is a choice, race isn't. Is it a choice? Is it a choice when someone joins a gang when they are born into poverty? Everyone is a product of their environment.