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Neither TFA nor any of the comments so far mention what seems to me the single most damning irony of drug-prohibition... that one of the most dangerous and harm
by jbotz 6y ago
Neither TFA nor any of the comments so far mention what seems to me the single most damning irony of drug-prohibition... that one of the most dangerous and harmful drugs of all remains legal through all the drug-war theater: alcohol.
Scientifically today there is really no doubt that alcohol is nearly as or perhaps even more harmful (considering all forms of harm, such as drug-specific mortality, drug-related mortality, health problems, dependence, economic costs to society, etc.) as the most dangerous illegal drugs, such as heroin and crack cocaine. Not that I think alcohol should be prohibited either, but if you don't prohibit it where is the logic in prohibiting far less harmful drugs such as canabis or psychadelics? The only logic is to use that prohibition as a tool for the arbitrary oppression of selected segments of society. And that's just plain immoral.
- SamReidHughes 6y agoYou can see from the racial differences in alcoholism that alcohol already killed off most of the people that can't handle it, in places that have had it for millenia. That's the case for legalizing it. The same might be true of marijuana (I don't know the history). This hasn't happened with modern drugs that didn't penetrate society the way alcohol has. Legalizing them means accepting the eugenic removal of susceptible people and their descendents from the future human population.
- jbotz 6y agoSorry, but no. Alcohol is still killing more people than all the illegal drugs combined, still causing more traffic accidents and violence, and overall costs to society, than all the illegal drugs combined. If you want evidence, google something like 'drugs vs alcohol'... there's lots; from the perspective of public health there is no doubt about this.
- SamReidHughes 6y ago> Alcohol is still killing more people than all the illegal drugs combined, That's because they're illegal.
- macinjosh 6y agoSo alcohol should be made illegal?
- mamon 6y agoThe problem with making alcohol illegal is that it is so easy to produce it at home, with generally available ingredients like sugar or yeast. That's why prohibition did not work. Banning drugs, especially synthetic ones is orders of magnitude more effective.
- blackflame7000 6y agoThe problem is that now a days a chemist can simply attach an inert molecular group to a banned chemical and viola it's no longer illegal but still the same drug. There are tons of LSD analogues like 1-acetyl-LSD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALD-52 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALD-52 Additionally: O-Acetylpsilocin (4-AcO-DMT) AL-LAD (6-allyl-6-nor-lysergic acid diethylamide) ETH-LAD (6-ethyl-6-nor-lysergic acid diethylamide) PRO-LAD (6-propyl-6-nor-lysergic acid diethylamide) 1P-LSD (1-propionyl-lysergic acid diethylamide)
- dTal 6y agoCannabis and psilocybic mushrooms literally grow wild, ready to consume.
- himinlomax 6y agoWell, we could try that, it would be a noble experiment wouldn't it?
- macinjosh 6y agoHave you heard of prohibition? Been there don’t be that. Didn’t work.
- himinlomax 6y ago
- Fjolsvith 6y agoIts not like they just invented alcohol 40 years ago. Besides, I've never heard it reported that 'X' brand of vodka killed a family of four on the turnpike last night. Vodka doesn't kill people. People kill people.
- ntsplnkv2 6y agoCulture impacts legislation, it's not really that surprising.
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