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It's how kids get into multimedia content creation using real tools without paying real money

by qppo 6y ago

lintroller 6y ago
It's how I did. Now I'm a professional frontend developer with adequate Adobe skills and a license paid for by the company that frequently come in handy on the job.
- bredren 6y ago
  Me too. I distinctly remember the warez group editing the startup image of PS 6, which had the code name Venus in Furs. Apparently that was 20 years ago! Anyhow, I know that much of my early software license transgressions resulted in actual software licenses.
- userbinator 6y ago
  license paid for by the company that frequently come in handy on the job. ...and now you know why Adobe products are so easy to pirate. Young pirates turn into loyal product users and customers.
  - dmix 6y ago
    More like they eventually join mid-size plus companies which Adobe tracks down to make them pay for their photoshop (if they detect it on a company network they will reach out). Or they simply just pay for it because they can and/or are professional/law abiding people. Adobe doesn't spend copyright enforcement time on individuals much.
  - the_af 6y ago
    Didn't this also use to be the case with MS Windows and MS Office? I always thought they were so easy to crack, and Microsoft was so prone to turn a blind eye to pirate copies at home, because this led to employees familiar with their products at the office. And they did go after pirated software at the office.
    - phre4k 6y ago
      It's almost as if pirating software for home users doesn't have the negative impact the big corporations would make you believe.
    - user5994461 6y ago
      Microsoft gives everything for free to students, except office. Check with your university. This shall includes hundreds of software, all editions of Windows both 32 bits and 64bits, as well as all editions of Visual Studio Ultimate, plus databases and other tools.
      - the_af 6y ago
        Yes, in later years, through my university this turned out to be the case. But it wasn't the case at first in my country.
  - mschuster91 6y ago
    They were easy to pirate up until CS6, nothing more than a keygen (or pregenerated key) and a couple blocks in /etc/hosts. After that they really cracked down on piracy, and at the same time offer the CC subscription decently cheap (50$ a month) that honestly the risk of malware isn't worth it any more.
    - user5994461 6y ago
      So one can pay $700 a year to Adobe or pay 1-2 month of student rent for that year. I'd say Adobe is pushing hard for piracy trying to get blood from a stone (students).
      - dylan604 6y ago
        $50/month is the full price for the most complete bundle. Adobe has a student price at a lower rate that I can't be bothered to look up just as you couldn't be bother to look up before making your comment.
        mschuster91 6y ago
        And even the 50$ - that's about the price of getting wasted once a month which most students can afford. The key difference between CS and CC is that you don't have to up-front hundreds/thousands of dollars.
dylan604 6y ago
The grandparents used alt.binary.* to get software
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  Ouch... a little too close to the truth here.
- dnh44 6y ago
  That’s still going strong actually and a really convenient way to download things.
rimliu 6y ago
It was really true back in the day, not so now. You can get e.g. Davinci Resolve for free and it as real of a tool as it gets.
488643689 6y ago
This is a hidden downside of having proprietary defacto monopolies in tech. As long as the Adobe suite is the default in digital content creation, piracy is the default gateway to that profession. I don't care about Adobe's loss, as they pretty much encourage the status quo, I do however care about all the people risking their digital life's integrity for this. Since it's "this is how you do it", many non-tech people are not even aware of the potential fallout. It's the same for even more problematic scenarios, e.g. students using cracked Matlab, SPSS, ... executables to crunch real study data at home. Yes, digital responsibility is ignored by those using cracked software, but really you can't ignore factual constraints and the economic situation, when talking about who's to blame.

It's how kids get into multimedia content creation using real tools without paying real money

by qppo 6y ago

It's how kids get into multimedia content creation using real tools without paying real money

It's how I did. Now I'm a professional frontend developer with adequate Adobe skills and a license paid for by the company that frequently come in handy on the job.

bredren 6y ago
Me too. I distinctly remember the warez group editing the startup image of PS 6, which had the code name Venus in Furs. Apparently that was 20 years ago! Anyhow, I know that much of my early software license transgressions resulted in actual software licenses.
userbinator 6y ago
license paid for by the company that frequently come in handy on the job. ...and now you know why Adobe products are so easy to pirate. Young pirates turn into loyal product users and customers.
- dmix 6y ago
  More like they eventually join mid-size plus companies which Adobe tracks down to make them pay for their photoshop (if they detect it on a company network they will reach out). Or they simply just pay for it because they can and/or are professional/law abiding people. Adobe doesn't spend copyright enforcement time on individuals much.
- the_af 6y ago
  Didn't this also use to be the case with MS Windows and MS Office? I always thought they were so easy to crack, and Microsoft was so prone to turn a blind eye to pirate copies at home, because this led to employees familiar with their products at the office. And they did go after pirated software at the office.
  - phre4k 6y ago
    It's almost as if pirating software for home users doesn't have the negative impact the big corporations would make you believe.
  - user5994461 6y ago
    Microsoft gives everything for free to students, except office. Check with your university. This shall includes hundreds of software, all editions of Windows both 32 bits and 64bits, as well as all editions of Visual Studio Ultimate, plus databases and other tools.
    - the_af 6y ago
      Yes, in later years, through my university this turned out to be the case. But it wasn't the case at first in my country.
- mschuster91 6y ago
  They were easy to pirate up until CS6, nothing more than a keygen (or pregenerated key) and a couple blocks in /etc/hosts. After that they really cracked down on piracy, and at the same time offer the CC subscription decently cheap (50$ a month) that honestly the risk of malware isn't worth it any more.
  - user5994461 6y ago
    So one can pay $700 a year to Adobe or pay 1-2 month of student rent for that year. I'd say Adobe is pushing hard for piracy trying to get blood from a stone (students).
    - dylan604 6y ago
      $50/month is the full price for the most complete bundle. Adobe has a student price at a lower rate that I can't be bothered to look up just as you couldn't be bother to look up before making your comment.
      - mschuster91 6y ago
        And even the 50$ - that's about the price of getting wasted once a month which most students can afford. The key difference between CS and CC is that you don't have to up-front hundreds/thousands of dollars.

dylan604 6y ago

The grandparents used alt.binary.* to get software

ogre_codes 6y ago
Ouch... a little too close to the truth here.
dnh44 6y ago
That’s still going strong actually and a really convenient way to download things.

rimliu 6y ago

It was really true back in the day, not so now. You can get e.g. Davinci Resolve for free and it as real of a tool as it gets.

488643689 6y ago

This is a hidden downside of having proprietary defacto monopolies in tech. As long as the Adobe suite is the default in digital content creation, piracy is the default gateway to that profession. I don't care about Adobe's loss, as they pretty much encourage the status quo, I do however care about all the people risking their digital life's integrity for this. Since it's "this is how you do it", many non-tech people are not even aware of the potential fallout. It's the same for even more problematic scenarios, e.g. students using cracked Matlab, SPSS, ... executables to crunch real study data at home. Yes, digital responsibility is ignored by those using cracked software, but really you can't ignore factual constraints and the economic situation, when talking about who's to blame.